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[–] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m not going to argue with you, because you are not my enemy nor my adversary. But I did want to point out that just because I focused on Russia in my previous comments does not mean that I’ve ignored all of the other problems that America currently has working against it.

I do wholeheartedly agree with you that capitalism is a malignant stage 4 cancer that is killing my country (assuming you’re not American). In this particular circumstance I was focusing on what I feel the more immediate threat.

As for your tone; I get it - I’m angry as Hell too. America failing affects many more than us Americans. It’s a shit situation for everyone.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You didn't "focus on Russia", you declared that they were the sole and entire problem, and that fascism in America is entirely the result of the ruskies corrupting your precious bodily fluids.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Not taking a position because my perspective is different sort of but pointing out that they actually didn't say "only Russia", their comment (at least the 2 I see) could be interpreted as implicating any number of external influences.

I do think this is not just foreign influence but a natural extension of the world the USA and related groups and various influences throughout history with overlapping goals sometimes have created, and it must be undone in what I can pretty much only imagine as a global shift towards people centered policies that actually get needs met as effectively as possible and without motivation to impede progress built into the system.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, they did say only Russia, I'm not sure how you're managing not to see that.

[–] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It was not simply manipulation from Russia and others, putting Trump into power and creating MAGA.

Yes, it is that simple. Not only do we have Trump as a Russian assets, but I’d wager there are also other politicians and judges that are assets too. Not to mention all of the dark money that flooded our government (thanks to Citizens United), and the whole of social media misinformation campaigns across Facebook, Twitter, TikTok, etc.

There is nothing homegrown about this; we’ve been under attack for a long time. Ow, and we’re only starting to notice it because of the repercussions.

This comment? I'm seriously not trying to be nitpicky, if that is what they meant I'm not like defending their position necessarily, but if I understand this comment correctly, it didn't exclude money from American oligarchs, other countries, etc. Which is consistent with my understanding (the money comes from all over). That's all I meant to point out, if I'm wrong no offense intended. I understood to mean that it's not what a majority of people actually want. More of a semantic disagreement.