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[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (19 children)

Jews don't really hate anyone for not believing in their God. Unlike Christianity and Islam, Jews don't believe that everyone has to follow their religion. They don't really believe in Heaven and Hell, and they don't proselytize to people who aren't already Jews. Judaism is for the Jewish people and that's it.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, the religion with the "chosen people" . Yep. Definitely tolerant of non-believers.

God's wrath? This only is directed at believers right?

Lol

Jews are welcome to believe in whatever they like provided they're not hurting anyone, but let's not pretend their religion as written, or hell even widely practiced, is somehow more tolerant compared to other religions.

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you read the Bible? Half of the Old Testament is God getting mad at Israel and punishing them with wars and diseases. I haven't done the math but more of God's wrath in the Bible seems to be directed at Israel rather than her enemies.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To me any religion that excludes people or exalts people on the basis of tribe is not tolerant end of story.

I haven't read the entirety of the Bible. But happy to be persuaded that my understanding of God and his chosen people is inaccurate.

For example, this was incredibly easy to search for: Destruction of the Canaanites

I would wager there are many such stories. Judaism, like most religions, is pretty fucked up.

If anyone really believes God chose their people over others, you inherently believe your tribe is more special, more righteous, or favoured by God. To me, that belief is nothing short of dangerous - *gestures broadly throughout human history*

I'm not really out of line here to assert that makes the orthodox belief foster ethnic/tribal supremacy.

I'm not saying everyone who believes in Judaism believes this way, but as a whole it's pretty hard to argue their shit doesn't smell as bad as the others.

Exclusion is just not a sign of tolerance. Sorry ¯_(ツ)_/¯

People are individuals, and I'd assert there's a spectrum of views across believers.

If we're talking about the religion in general? I'll have to strongly disagree that it's only inward looking.

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