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[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 month ago (7 children)

I need a Venn diagram of whiteness to really get this. Or a scale of some sort

[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 48 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There are certain ethnicities that although white, have been marginalized and scapegoated for societies problems in the past. Groups like Italians and Irish people were considered a lower-tier of white people, just above black people, especially in the US in the 18-1900's.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Italians and Irish people were considered a lower-tier of white people

I'm pretty sure they weren't considered any tier of "white" at that time.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It's why the US has St Patrick's Day and Christopher Columbus Day. They needed to prove their worth to earn "whiteness"

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

although white

Can't really say that when the whole category is nebulous and subjective

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