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It took 250 years to build what Trump is trying to undo (edition.cnn.com)

submitted 2 months ago by tfm@europe.pub to c/BoycottUnitedStates@europe.pub

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[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The President I just described would not be running on a "not as awful" platform.

Whether the Democrats can be forced to step up is an open question. But if it's not the Democrats then it's nobody. Despite rising frustration with the party, they still have a massive loyal following. There is no avoiding a split with an outside strategy.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The President I just described would not be running on a "not as awful" platform.

Cool. And I think that president has a real shot. But I don't know if the current Democratic party has any intention of putting that president forward.

But if it's not the Democrats then it's nobody.

Parties have waned and been replaced, even in two-party systems.

There is no avoiding a split with an outside strategy.

Agreed. And if the Democrats put forth a real candidate, with real values, there's a chance the party continues.

In any case, I'm glad and proud to vote along with the majority of other voting non-billionaire non-assholes, as long as there's a strategy.

But I'm still not convinced we're better off dragging the Democratic party's lately dead weight along for the ride.

Edit: To be clear, I'll continue voting for whichever candidate my local union endorses. It's a good enough solution, for me, to ensure my vote moves usefully and strategically.