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why is automation removing the joy and creativity of cooking instead of the dishes, which is what the person is left to do.
What do you think a dishwasher is
More work to prep dishes for washing than actual help
Have you ever used a dishwasher?
Yes, and I've been disgusted by pieces of food perma-sticked to otherwise clinically clean mugs.
Onto the mugs? I've never seen that happen to mugs, plates sure. Either way you can now get a sponge and clean that one problem mug rather than everything. Saves you so much time.
It transfers from plates to mugs somehow, which makes it extra gross
You know that is usually remedies by just not putting plates with half a meal still left on them into the dishwasher.
So kind of like preparing the plate before putting it in? By rinsing it with water to get rid of any solid parts, at which point I'm two moves of sponge away from having a clean plate?
Well yes. But if you have for example 20 plates you just quickly rinse them all in a row and put them in the dishwasher. Along with all the other cups and glasses and whatever pots and cutlery you used. Saves a lot of time.
Yes if you have 2 plates and nothing else I agree it's easier to just hand wash them.
Agree to disagree? I have a dishwasher and hate it for daily cleaning, but it does a good job for burned greasy pots or stuff dirty from dough. If it saves your time for daily work, good for you.
Sure. Agree to disagree. Dishwasher is a gift from god.
Are you using a European or American dishwasher?
I feel like whatever my answer is, it will be the wrong one. I'll take a risk though: 🇪🇺
When least have you cleaned the filter?
It was happening when it was new so I doubt it's the filter. I don't know I don't use it any more, my spouse does and does the maintenance.
I see, fair enough. I'm not sure what's wrong with the one you had. It could be the way things are being packed, eco mode or not enough detergent etc. But if you're not using it any more then I guess it doesn't matter ¯_(ツ)_/¯
There are two things to do when loading a dishwasher:
Give the dishes a rinse so there's not 1/4th of a meal left on the plate. It's not a miracle worker.
Don't let the dirty plates sit in the machine for long enough for the dirty leftovers to dry out and stick to the plate, that makes it much harder for the machine to clean it. If that happens, run a long program.
... you don't need to prep your dishes before putting it in the dishwasher.
How much joy and creativity do think there was in these places before?
More than there was before the cooks got put on dishwashing and floor mopping.
Imagine being able to automate a cook but science still hasnt come far enough for some kind of dish washing machine and a robotic vaccum cleaner, weird huh
Buddy you guys are acting like they can automate professional chefs? You're lucky when they don't tear your arm off giving you the food.
When I was a cook, even if I was just making something simple, I could still find creative satisfaction in a variety of ways. How you sprinkle on the garnish, plating, using a little more of this, a little less of that. Food to a chef is like art designed to be destroyed, so with the temporary nature of the medium, it really allows you to be creative. You're not hung up on making it perfect, because it's just about to be eaten, so it let's you be more free with your design choices. It can be fun creating art while you're supposed to be working.
but if my job was suddenly just washing up after a machine... well. That will get old real quick.
The first paragraph is a fantasy.
In this restaurant, where the chef was replaced by a salad machine, the "chef" was a human salad machine before. There was no time to play with garnish and playing, they weren't serving Michelin star food. The term "chef" is used very liberally here, you aren't a chef if the only thing you cook at a restaurant is assemble salad that a machine can do to the same standard.
They were assembling salads, it wasn't a dream job.
Literally not a fantasy, but my and a lot of cooks reality.
You assemble the same soulless food everyday and you actually feel fulfilled by assembling croutons differently every day?
Hey, I can't imagine the process not becoming muscle memory and for my brain to not be somewhere else completely, but you sprinkle salt off your elbow if that gives you joy.
cooks make more than salads. You're being an asshole.
Automation should replace cooks, but in fast food restaurants instead of proper ones. They should free up people who work brain-dead jobs at Mcdonalds or KFC to let them work at other places, including other proper restaurants that don't make fast food.
Lol yeah right. I'm sure the only thing stopping Brandon from working at a Michelin restaurant is his McDonald's job off of I-95
So it's better that he never even gets the opportunity to try to make it there? It's better if he works at Mcdonalds until he's 60?
Does he already not have the opportunity, robot or not?