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Eurovision 2025: Austria's JJ wins with "Wasted Love" – DW – 05/18/2025 (www.dw.com)

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Israel getting second place was a bigger surprise to me. Even the popular votes gave then a lot more points than i had expected. Was it rigged?

[–] ziggurat@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My conspiracy radar is beeping...

My thought process when armchair checking out conspiracies has two points

How many people are needed to hold a secret?
Does someone rich benefit from the conspiracy?

So how many people need to hold the secret if it (buying votes) can be done with fake or stolen credit cards? Very few, but its a lot of votes to buy, but that would just cost more money

So does someone rich benefit from this? Well the Israeli government really benefits if Europeans think other Europeans are okay with Israel.

Am I antisemitic? No dont be reficulous, I'm not against any religion or ethnicity, I'm just against genocide no matter who does it

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This was my highest surprise. To feel that there are many Europeans who are not only ok with Israel being part of the Eurovision while in a war, but also felt that they wanted to vote for them (both due to the song and as a signal value).

So your point about making a statement, by having people vote for ones country is valid!

I won't go into theories as such on who has done what and why. But i wouldn't hold the EBU to so high standards that it is unbribable

[–] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

that's the reason to game it. to convince you that you are being unreasonable. and alone.

[–] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 1 points 2 weeks ago

The way Eurovision voting works is that each voter get 20 points to distribute their vote. I suspect most “ordinary” people distribute their points across multiple artists because they can’t decide on one artist, while Israel supporters distribute all their 20 points to Israel.

Then I suspect most people watching Eurovision don’t vote, while most people supporting Israel vote for Eurovision - even if they don’t watch the competition.

I’ve also heard Israel did targeted ad campaigns urging people to vote for Israel.

So I think it’s less of a conspiracy and more of a foul play.

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