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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.

Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.

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Climeworks’ capture fails to cover its own emissions (heimildin.is)

submitted 2 weeks ago by eleitl@lemm.ee to c/collapse@lemm.ee

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[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

You're just sealioning lol.

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

My bad. I thought I was just providing leading questions. Oh, well.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Explain why it would break a TD law if you're serious (it doesn't but I don't understand why you think it would).

[–] eleitl@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I said fighting against the laws of thermodynamics.

Look at entropy in Direct Air Capture in https://pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsengineeringau.2c00043 What is missing in above is renewable energy infrastructure capable of rebuilding itself, rebuilding the DAC infrastructure and also powering it, and also provide enough surplus for infrastructure growth, using only non-fossil input.

You might find replicating fully autopoietic biological photosynthesis a remarkably hard task.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Well, lots of interesting information here, and hopefully they'll use better tech, more renewable energy and so on!

But you don't "fight" the laws of therodynamics (they are immutable), wich lead me (from your comment) to think that you thought that they cannot be carbon negative, because that would break one if the TD laws. If that's what you think, then I can explain why you are wrong, but if I was wrong, then we're on the same boat where they will have a hard time doing what they want (but it's not theiretically impossible).