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As simple as possible to summarize the best way you can, first, please. Feel free to expand after, or just say whatever you want lol. Honest question.

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[โ€“] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I don't think you're correct with your argument. Why would someone choose any particular religion? That's the argument. There is no logical argument for that. There are arguments for choose one in general, although logically very flawed. Still, there's no logical argument I'm aware of to choose a specific one.

[โ€“] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There is argumentation beyond the transcendental argument to believe, for example, the Christian God. It has to do with prophesy, metaphysics, theology etc

[โ€“] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So... Feelings. I would really like to explore this rationale in your mind. Nobody should convert or join any religion on feelings. Yet, prophecy, metaphysics, theology.. So the edge of scientific reasoning but just slightly outside? Or because their father and mother practice it?

[โ€“] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To prove you have any good faith in your "critique". State my argument back to me.

[โ€“] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A feeling should not be the reason you convert to any religion

My refute: it is always feelings, the alternative is science

you are wrong

Can you explain?

you are wrong to even ask

Then the other person stated how there is no logical argument, that you have to use "feelings" (explaining again the same refutal)

you can't expect to use science to explain

What we refer to then is feelings?

state my argument back at me to prove your faith, peasant

This is this discussion so far from my viewpoint. To add to that, I have to say also that it is clearly triggering for you and difficult to discuss. I don't mind but take a breather whenever. It makes for a better quality enlightenment.

( Small aside: The supposition that we don't use science in matters of theology and metaphysics is very important to examine. What do we use? )

[โ€“] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

state my argument back at me to prove your faith, peasant

Ironically you tried to push this back in my face as if I'm some pedant when it's the most pragmatic way to make sure we aren't talking past one another. If you just said "I have no idea" it would have been a better response.

clearly triggering for you and difficult to discuss

I've had some great discussions in this thread and everyone is better for it. You haven't bothered to even understand what I'm arguing though so this exchange is a waste of time.

[โ€“] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Classic run away tactic. Not even one response just more personal attacks. Okay thanks for trying! It was pretty unpleasant to talk to you.

[โ€“] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I never personally attacked you.

[โ€“] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't really understand what personal attacks means, do you?

[โ€“] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know what asserting without evidence means.

[โ€“] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, because that's what all religious practicioners engage in at every point of their study. I just haven't ever heard someone whine at others for doing so without evidence, since from our adolescence we learn that people don't come back from or report from any afterlife making every single belief about it a guess, aka belief. I don't know what you are smoking to hold these in your head simultaneously but it seems intensely frustrating honestly.

[โ€“] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Does your Dad know that you're making epistemologically unjustified arguments on the internet?