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Re Linux: Do you want to be tech support for these people when they accidentally brick their system or they have a file compatibility issue when using Libre Office and collaborating with someone using Word? Linux is easy for people like us that are interested in tech as a hobby.
Normal people sit in the paradigm of just wanting their tech to be as user friendly and railroaded as possible.
I'm sure those people have hobbies, and preferences about those hobbies, that might benefit you if you knew. How would you want them to convince you that, say, changing the oil on your car is actually really quick and easy if you know what to do?
I don't mean to be obtuse, this is the reality of trying to onboard people that aren't fussed about privacy. They've generally got their own thing going on and don't want to dive down a new rabbit hole.
Edit: For some actual advice: start with your partner and close friends/family.
Of the friends which you are talking to about it, target the ones which are more likely to already have an existing predisposition to caring about privacy.
Just get them to use Signal for now. Say that you're deleting WhatsApp or messenger or whatever it is that you use to communicate with them generally and ask them just to install this new one that is more privacy-respecting.
If you can get people off of Facebook Messenger or whatsapp as the default messaging app, that is a huge win. People tend to share their most personal secrets in what they assume to be private forums. Most people don't post that much stuff to Facebook's wall anyway anymore.
If the person that you're speaking to might distrust the government more than Mega-corporations, focus on the fact that the government can access those corporations' data pretty easily. If the person that you're trying to convince personally finds musk or Zuckerberg gross, then lean into that.
Don't even bother talking to Sarah from accounting at work about privacy.
Good point!! Im actually afraid of bricking my laptop, im going the linux changeover and my backing up all my shit on a hard drive.🤣🤣
Thats truuu, most people want things to be user friendly. But i think we are at that point tho🤣 maybe im wrong.
Good point about the oil. I can change the oil in my car because i hate oil on my hands🤣🤣 so yeah, youre right. Just because it can be done, doesnt mean you are gonna do it.🤣🤣
Yess!! Im trying to get people to try some privacy focused chatting apps! Thats definitely a good idea! I think i wany to chat with my friends but i want them to move to privacy focused platforms! So im super pushy, so thats my bad.
You can dual-boot if you don't want to go all in? Not sure about laptop dual boot but that's what I do on my desktop.
I've had a family member complain about "another chatting app on their phone", but if you convince them that they can only really contact you there (because YOU are deleting everything else off your phone), they'll do it and see that it's absolutely fine.
Nope going all in🤣 want all my space. Maybe with my real laptop, i should leave windows on there with a portion with the orginal stuff that only takes 1/3 of the drive. But i kinda want all 1tb of space.
I dont really want to use windows anymore at all. I was watching a video in my private tab of my browser and windows decided to install some updates. I lost my spot in my video and forgot what video it was. Extra salt. And all the privacy concerns are a big nono.
The only problem is my cameras being bricked if i switch to linux because i have a surface tablet.
But yeah i downloaded a lot of chatting apps to talk to people but its less since im mostly using signal and lemmy. But i still use discord at points.
Ah yeah that's a predicament. Do you know what distro you are going to be using? If you haven't decided, Fedora with GNOME as the DE is a good bet. Otherwise Zorin or Ubuntu, again with GNOME. Apparently that DE is better for devices with touchscreens.
Oh they just get bricked. I dont know, something microsoft did to surfaces after surface 4, they cant get them to work with any linux distro. Thats the only reason to keep the cameras for job interviews. But again usb webcams exist. Hmmmm..
People keep on saying aurora is best option for surface, because everything work except the cameras. Not sure if i need a plug in keyboard. Forgot to ask about that. But the keyboard that comes with the surface should work.
Truuu, i should check into fedora! Thanks for the advice!!❤️