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I said no children were burned by Hamas on October 7. Seegoon was talking about Oct 7.
You’re right, some of us do.
But it’s very clearly not your Zio biased arse.
Why don't you name disruptions of peace pre Oct 7 instead of calling me names?
Zionism is the belief that Jews should have a self governing state in the Levant. Not all Zionists are expansionist.
Where would you expect Jews to go?
Jews aren't going anywhere, neither are Palestinians. That is our starting point. Wishing it was otherwise is pointless.
How exactly can you be a non-expansionist Zionist if the existence of Israel necessitated the Nakba? How can you rationally justify the existence of the Israeli state if you refuse population displacement?
I find it hard to find a good faith argument this position.
Firstly: regardless of the Nakba, the reality is that neither Jews (despite Hamas & Hezbollah efforts) nor Palestinians (despite Trump fantasies which Netanyahu/Likud seems to be unfortunately leveraging) are going anywhere.
But since I have Covid and have time on my hands I decided to read into some detail about the Nakba. I found this article which you may agree with except that you may not agree that Israel should exist in any form at all (in which case we should just end our discussion). I also found this article which you would find challenging I am sure but if you do read it I am interested in your criticism of it.