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And of course, they're going to take all the wrong lessons from this. They're going to use this as an excuse to move further right. What a fucking joke.
If Democrats want to win, they better move toward the center because that's where most Americans are.
Unfortunately they are moving right, and thus even further away from the center
What an idiotic takeaway.
In fact, there’s fewer and fewer people in the center. Americans are abandoning the center in droves. And the Democratic Party, as liberals always do, is moving right to chase the fascist vote, because the left is a threat to Dems.
No, if Americans are abandoning the center, Trump's popularity would be soaring. Democrats should move to the right not far right. Merz of Germany adopted tough immigration views, but they were not as extreme as that of the AFD.
how did you even get on lemmy.ml? Which line from the manifesto did you copy and paste?
Are you saying that only certain views are allowed on lemmy.ml? How would you learn anything if everyone in the group thinks the same? The psychological term is called groupthink and leads to poor decision making.
The .ml stands for Marxism-Leninism. That's why you copy-pasted a sentence from the communist manifesto when signing up. Other views are allowed, but only to a point (which you haven't crossed IMO). Although your talk about immigrants is right on the edge, and you probably will eventually be banned from here. Lemmy.world is probably more your speed
On the sidebar, you can see that certain views are absolutely not allowed here:
If you allow the bigotry, then you face the paradox of tolerance. .
US election turnouts are low because neither party genuinely represents the people. The DNC ran rightward and lost in 2024, are you saying you want them to run further right, or further left? Which "center" are you talking about, the center of left and right, or center of DNC/GOP?
I dont think its possible for them to be more in the center. You must mean more to the right.
They could be closer to the center by moving far to the left.
That's not actually true. The very idea that Democrats are even left-of-center as it is, is completely disingenuous. It's a fiction created by the US media's intentional misrepresentation of policy. The majority of Americans want left-wing economic policies.
They also don't care as much about culture war issues, as the media likes to make it appear. That is mostly a right-wing driven idea, while everyone left of that would simply rather focus on more practical concerns, without infringing on anyone's rights. But that doesn't mean they want politicians to abandon minority issues altogether. They just don't agree that it should be such a hot-button topic. Catering to the kinds of narratives pushed by right-wing media, is not what the majority of Americans want from their politicians.
If Democrats want to start winning again, they need to start focusing on working-class issues. That means a hard shift to the left on economic policy. Trump and the Republicans have already figured this out, even if their rhetoric is total bullshit...they know what people want to hear, and they're saying it. What Democrats need to do, is walk that kind of talk for real. That means reaching out to the actual majority of voters...not just the ones with the most money...and deliver real policy changes that will improve regular people's lives.
tbf, Democrats moving "towards the center" would mean moving left
The economy is always the top issue in any presidential election. Most Americans will not want a leftist economic policy. It will certainly mean high taxes in order to pay for all the social programs.
Most Americans do want left-wing economic policies...they just don't like the word "socialism". But they all want Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid...along with pretty much everything else you can describe to them, without using the "S-word".
As I said...most of what people object to, is based on the right-wing narrative that the media pushes in order to prevent those kinds of policies from being implemented or expanded. It's the trigger words that have been incorporated into that narrative that drive people to vote against what they all agree, is good policy.
To be clear, social programs are not "Socialism," Socialism is a separate organization of the economy where public ownership makes up the principle aspect.