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[–] reactionality 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Advance fascism across the globe? Make multiple trillionnaires and deepen the class divide into a chasm? Kill children through willing propagation of weapons? Spread opium everywhere? Develop a militaristic ethno state that sells weapons to genocidal maniacs, and uses them for genocide themselves?

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm all for pointing out everything currently and historically wrong with any country, but you're doing the "intellectually dishonest" thing. The question wasn't whether you could point out a shitload of bad stuff, but whether you could see any good.

The British empire did a shitload of terrible stuff, that doesn't mean leading the way in global industrialisation and bringing hundreds of millions out of starvation was one of them.

Germany has done terrible shit, but starting the predecessor to the EU and thereby heavily contributing to the most peaceful and prosperous eighty years western Europe has ever seen is usually seen as a good thing.

The US has done terrible shit, as you point out. Being a catalyst and inspiration for the global spread of democracy is usually seen as a positive. Being a core actor in the formation of the UN, helping build a post-WWII rule-based world order is usually also seen as a positive. US aid contributing hundreds of millions of people getting access to education, vaccines, medicine, and catastrophe-release is normally seen in a positive light.

[–] reactionality 1 points 3 days ago

Willful ignorance. Unless you seriously believe the US was not doing most of the terrible things I mentioned while doing the positives you brought up.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There aren't any trillionaires yet if I'm not mistaken.

[–] reactionality -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Ok, well that wasn't my intention. You're right, the US absolutely did all those other things.