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Amid Rising Heat, Hajj Becomes Test of Endurance for Pilgrims and Saudi Arabia (www.nytimes.com)

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The hajj, one of the largest annual human gatherings in the world, begins on Wednesday in Mecca, Saudi Arabia. Amid rising temperatures and logistical challenges, the pilgrimage has increasingly become a test of endurance both for pilgrims and the Saudi government.

Millions of Muslims from around the world travel to the city to take part; Saudi Arabia said 1,475,230 pilgrims from abroad have arrived since Sunday. Last year, the Saudi government said more than 1,300 pilgrims died, many from Egypt. Most of those who perished had been unregistered, Saudi officials said, meaning they had made the trip without the permits that gave them access to heat protections.

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[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago (11 children)

The assertion that there is no God cannot be proven as you cannot prove a negative.

There assertion that there is a divine entity cannot be logically demonstrated in any valid way logically speaking.

The validity of either claim cannot be tested and thus have the same overall value and it is a matter of which you choose to accept.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Lacking a belief in God is not asserting there is no God. I don't know how to dumb this down any more.

[–] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lacking a belief in God, asserting there is no God, and asserting there is a God are all equally impossible to prove provided that by “God” we mean an omnipotent omipresent being.

I dont know how to make that any clearer.

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

"I make no claim"

"You can't prove it!"

I mean, yeah, because no claim is being made. Do you genuinely not understand the difference between no claim and a negative claim? Even if you think they're the same thing, the burden of proof is still on the person making the positive claim.

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