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[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Both of these things can be true. At least russia is definitely not an ally or partner to Europe.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Well I happen to live there, so fuck you too I guess. Not saying our governments aren't into dirty shit themselves but at least it's not russia. What comparison even is that

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago

The majority of Communists worldwide recognize Western Europe as a greater evil than Russia, due to how the economic base of each is, and how that relates to the global international context. Western Europe is Imperialist, as in Western Europe consumes more value than it creates by brutally exploiting the Global South, using millitary alliances like NATO to terrorize countries that try to exert sovereignty over their national industry and resources. Russia is Nationalist, but doesn't have the same Imperialist holdings Western Europe has, due to descending from the Anti-Imperialist USSR. They have no room to exploit the Global South in the same way, they have an inwardly driven economy.

Of course, the United States is the world's greatest and worst Empire, but that does not mean its allies in Western Europe are blameless for the waning status quo of Western dominance. Further, Russia has strong economic ties to Socialist countries like the PRC and Cuba due to descending from the Soviet Union, and being denied access to the "Imperial Club" of the West. They wanted to join NATO and brutally exploit the Global South for super profits, but were denied.

I think you should use this as an opportunity to become familiar with the Communist perspective on Imperialism. I recommend Lenin's Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism as a good intro!

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What your government is actively supporting in Gaza is an order of magnitude worse than what Russia is doing.

The fact is, there is nothing your government could do that wouldn't make you shrug and say "well, we're still better than [villain country]"

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Classic Euro-chauvinist: no actual defense of your position, just lazy personal attacks.

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Bro, you are supportive of a warmongering state that actively supports racist and ideological extremists in the west, and consider yourself a leftist. You severely overestimate the legitimacy of your position, why should I waste effort on arguing on a serious level with you? It's already clear you are lost.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Sorry, I should have said "just lazy personal attacks, and lazy strawmen"

It seems fairly obvious that even you don't think your position can actually be defended, from the way you're reduced to trying to put words in my mouth and then haughtily declaring victory like Satre's anti-semite.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 week ago

Yes, Europeans governments aren't like Russia, they are worse it's not even a comparison