“People think, increasingly it appears, that we shouldn’t be doing this. Well, let me start by saying we haven’t lost a single American in this war,” McConnell said. “Most of the money that we spend related to Ukraine is actually spent in the US, replenishing weapons, more modern weapons. So it’s actually employing people here and improving our own military for what may lie ahead.”

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I don't give a fuck mate. The result of the war is that one group of bourgeoisie exploit people, or another group of bourgeoisie exploit people. Neither outcome is worth any lives to me. No war but class war.

You are a pro war bloodthirsty psychopath willing to expend as many lives as necessary as long as it empowers the particular group of billionaires that you cheerlead for instead of some other group of them.

And it was Ukraine that was shelling Donetsk and Luhansk actually. Don't make me get the OSCE shelling maps out.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 years ago (5 children)

No political theory. No ad hominem attacks. Who start shooting first?

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

What the fuck do you not understand? I do not care. It does not matter to me who starts a war when both sides are bourgeoisie. And it does not fucking matter to me who wins them. I will not cheerlead either side of a bourgeoise war. I am not a psychotic nationalist. I am an internationalist.

Fucking trying to remove politics from a war is utterly deranged.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

She answered in the last paragraph

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 2 years ago

Well, Ukraine. Or, rather, Right-wing nationalist Galacians who trapped dozens of Ukrainian union members who were the wrong kind of Ukrainian in a building them threw firebombs in until all the Ukrianians in the building burned to death.

Then the nationalist Galacians attacked the legitimate president, who had considerable support in eastern Ukraine.

Then the coup Rada started sending Nazi death squads in to Donbas, and shelled Donbass with artillery for like eight years.

Then the UA military staged a massive build up to invade Donbas with... uh... questionable intentions towards the Russian speaking Ukrainian population, and at that point Russia invaded.

So.

[–] Grimble@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No political theory

"Go ahead and duel me, just take off your clothes first and drop your weapon"

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 2 years ago

And it doesn't even work bc afaik the first shots in the civil war were when the nationalists trapped all those Ukrainians in the union building and burned them all to death.

[–] Farman@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

The opposite of the lady barnard song.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

As always fidel-salute to one of our finest posters

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago

heart-sickle

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 2 points 2 years ago

We love our posters