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[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I was thinking more about the availability of "molybdenum disulfide and tungsten diselenide" opposed to silicon, they don't sound exactly like Home Depot stuff.

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fair point. From what I can tell, refined tungsten is actually an order of magnitude cheaper(!) than refined silicon, but molybdenum is over two orders or magnitude more expensive. ~300USD per ton, ~2000USD per ton and ~60000USD per ton respectively.

I assume that if this got up to scale industrially, savings could be made by recycling high purity molybdenum waste, but yes, it's not going to be cheap.

[–] kata1yst@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Modern transistors aren't just silicon though. The silicon is doped with various materials, presumably gallium, boron, arsenic, phosphorus, and cobalt, among other elements.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doping_%28semiconductor%29

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But material costs don't matter much in computer pricing.

[–] microcapybara@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 week ago

Exactly… the price of these new materials/CPUs isn’t in the amount of “exotic” elements, which is barely measurable on a per-unit basis, but in the production.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

CPUs are not made in a home depot.

[–] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 1 week ago

Hah, maybe not where you live.