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Former Israeli peace negotiator Daniel Levy on what's driving Netanyahu and why this will be a defining moment for Trump's MAGA movement.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

At the beginning of his term, the Turd was promising peace in Ukraine within a day. He was so desparate to get a "deal" done, and hoped to get a Nobel Price for peace that way - something he absolutely envied Obama for.

Then he learned that neither Putler nor Zelenskyy was a pushover apprentice like in his show, and the world is not a stage biased to make him look good.

Now he thinks he can reach his goal by "bringing peace" to the Levant, probaby by bombing the mullahs to ~~Kingdom Come~~ Paradise with 72 Virgins.

My prediction: This won't bring peace, but will terminally piss off everyone down there, and might bring a new 9/11. Or worse.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (4 children)

I suspect this is even worse. If these idiots succeed at forcing an externally imposed regime change, Iran (a country of 90 million people) might go the way of Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, i.e., total fucking chaos for at least a decade if not more. If you thought Daesh and the refugee crisis was bad, just you fucking wait.

And this all happened while the Iranians were supposedly negotiating with the US. Why should anyone ever negotiate with the West ever again if it is just a stalling tactic until you get stabbed in the back? So not only is this a collapse of international law, it is even collapse of the basic capacity for international diplomacy. And it does send a hugely hugely strong message to the Saudis, the Turks, the Emiratis, basically anyone and everyone: get nukes asap, see what happened to Iran?.

Not to mention that the Israelis are causing US imperial over-extension, when the US fascist right (Bannon, MTG, etc) are already distancing themselves from zionists. So who do you think the fascists will blame for US decline once immigrants and democrats are no longer adequate scapegoats? Who is always the scapegoat of last resort for the fascists?

The 20th century was monstrous. Well, fellow monkeys, welcome to the 21st...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Iran (a country of 90 million people) might go the way of Syria, Afghanistan and Iraq, i.e., total fucking chaos for at least a decade if not more. If you thought Daesh was bad, just you fucking wait.

Small correction: Afghanistan wasn't "total chaos;" it was an insurgency against US occupation and after the US left the Taliban immediately took power. If we use this as our model for a post-war Iran (since it doesn't have the kind of sectarian tensions that created the Syrian and Iraqi civil wars) we'd expect more a better armed Taliban than ISIS.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Iran for sure does have sectarian tensions under the surface. There are Kurds, Azeris, Arabs, Balochs etc. Shias, Sunnis, secularists, workers, capitalists, etc etc. There are all the ingredients for a big big chaos.

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