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The Abandon Harris movement was huge in the Biden sphere. They got a large amount of people to not vote for Harris because she refused to fulfill their demands of stopping the genocide in Gaza.
And instead of doing a pity regret dance they now use their proven determination to threaten Trump to cave to their demand or face electorale backlash for it.
The people who might opt to not vote for Biden or Harris aren't people who would have voted for trump in the first place, so I don't see them having a lot of leverage.
I can't tell you what code to follow, but the whole thing reeks of people who didn't get the memo that trump doesn't need them to bleed votes from the Dems anymore.
They told voters to abandon Biden and Harris because of their genocide.They didn't tell peoppe to vote for Trump, because Trump refused to be anti-genocide as well.
Abandon Harris subsequently endorsed Jill Stein, the most popular anti-genocide candidate.
The whole thing sends an extremely clear and important message for politicians to not support war and genocide.
And then Jill Stein won, and the genocide stopped, right?
Like I said, I don't question the intention or code of ethics for the people involved, but there's a reason they and people like them get a lot of support from the RNC.
They aren't voters who are realistically going to vote Republican, so the best they can do is be diverted to a spoiler candidate.
Thinking that that translates to political leverage against the Republicans is just naive though. They didn't vote for them in the first place, so it's an empty threat.
No because there's too many genocide supporters. At least Democrats learnt that there are people who unlike Democrat and Republican voters have morals and will not tolerate genocide no matter how hard they fearmonger.
Because Republicans were not the one doing the genocide at that time, whereas Democrats were. Now they Abandon Harris applies consistent morals and use their leverage to oppose Trump.
Surprisingly Red MAGA is providing a lot more opposition to the Iran invasion the Blue MAGA ever has. I was almost shocked to find out that the Democratic party is a bigger cult than Republicans. This momentum can certainly be translated into a campaign opposing Trump.
And yet their principled opposition not only did nothing, it's very clearly made things worse for basically everyone. The genocide didn't stop, but now there's not even token opposition. Iran is being bombed. Civil rights are being rolled back across the country, food aid is being taken from millions, and it's just starting.
The Democrats were never "doing genocide", just like the Republicans aren't now. The Democrats weren't saying they would do enough to stop someone else from doing it, and the Republicans were saying they would encourage them to do it harder.
Congratulations on being an unwitting mouthpiece for the RNC. "Maga is just a rude word to call someone! It's not literally what we have on our hats!” "staunch opposition to fascism is closed minded and just as prejudicial as wanting to eliminate trans people!”
I hope your movement does stop Trump and cause effective change and reform. I'm not holding my breath, because I don't think they were counting on your votes in the first place and the next time they think about you will be when they want you to be mad at the Democrats again to keep you from voting for them.