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[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Because what you provide aren't equivalent events at all. Looking at two of your three recent examples (I'm not going to tackle every single link you've put throughout this thread.) (And ignoring that the 3 things you provided here are not even related to the things I said)

In the case of children being left without representation, it happened, it's heinous it was also infrequent enough to be a big deal as I do recall that issue. Now it's happening frequently.

In the case of the national guard, that was ordered at a state level for riots , not by an overreavhing president for a peaceful protest, and never involved deploying marines in conjunction. On top of that his deployment of them was not immediate, though the gop pushed for them to be more immediate. There are legitimate times for calling in military support, such as when riots overwhelm local law resources.

You are putting up these sources as if they are equivalent and irrefutable proof of dems being worse. I am not saying bad things didn't happen under them. I said from the start that they have their own share of fuckups. But I am saying that the total, frequency, and severity are incredibly less as well as the general responses to these failures being better overall. It's such a stark difference, as to make your opinion that the GOP being a lesser evil insane.

If you spent some time critiquing the events you link in relation to current events you would see how flat it falls as a comparison. Yes, shit happens under every single government and candidate and party. But to sit here and pretend that the gop are the "lesser evil" is blind at beast and willful ignorance or a propaganda narrative at worst.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This sounds exactly like the drivel the GOP supporters spout to make excuses. Y’all really don’t see how much alike you are, and it’s wild.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, you are just incapable of of seeing that you aren't giving a good argument. You put up links that while they do show failings under democrat leadership, are not equivalents to the attrocities currently being committed.

I don't like either party. I'm not a republican or a democrat despite having to be registered under one of them because my state is lame af. If there was a better one with a real chance of winning, I'd be voting for that one. I freely admit that democrats are a fucking joke overall. But pretending that they are as bad or worse than the republican party is a really obtuse take.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I’m familiar with this idiocy. I had to hear months of election propaganda about how a Democrat supported genocide was preferred to a Republican led genocide. And Democrat mass deportation is better than Republican mass deportation. Etc.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And I'm familiar with this nonsense of pointing at one problem and not looking at anything else so you can say "sEe bOtH sAmE".

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I’m literally pointing to the exact same problems. You just only care when a Republican does it.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

And I've acknowledged them and explained that while they are similar the issue of scale is still something you are ignoring. I care when both groups do it, but the argument was that republicans are worse. And they are because they do all the shit dems do AND more AND at a larger scale.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The point is you’re not considering the actual, literal scale. You’re judging by how it feels.

Biden deported 250% more people than Trump’s first term. Stephen Miller recently went out a shouting rant at ICE heads for barely keeping pace with Biden’s numbers.

So no, you don’t care about the actual scale. You care about the scale of how intensely the media reporting makes you feel about it. There’s nothing mathematical about it. There’s no measurement. Which is why you don’t care when it’s a Democrat.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

How many legal American citizens did Biden deport without habeus corpus?

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ahh. So Biden only attacked the right class of subhumans.

There’s the classic neoliberalism. The scale of human suffering is negligible, so long as it’s the right kind of humans.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Man, you miss the point so hard it feels intentional. I'm leaving this comment and peacing out. So, in case you can't see it, deporting people who are in the country illegally after a civil trial, is not the same as snatching American citizens off the street and deporting them with no due process.

Democrats suck. Republicans such way worse.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

I get exactly the point you’re trying to make. You see the cruelty as excusable, as long as they do the proper paperwork. It’s the lack of respect for process that offends you. Not the thousands of lives ruined.

You just have such a fucked moral compass that you see this position as logical and in line with your worldview.