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[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (12 children)

In 2014, after years of debate, Brazil's Congress ratified Law 12.965/2014, the Internet Civil Framework. This law required social media companies to delete posts and deplatform users who broke Brazilian laws. However, it placed the burden on Brazilian courts to identify the posts and accounts.

Is this meant to apply to all "users" of the platform or only Brazilian Citizens?

If it applies to Brazilian Citizens, that's all fine and good. But if I break brazilian law by criticizing their government, is lemmy.ml expected to "deplatform" and "censor" me?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

all users persecutable by brazilian law. its not about internet access or the platforms themselves, its about what you say and do publicly. the internet is just an extension of it, its pretty much like you commited that crime IRL.

said criminal or racist shit on twitter, and courts caught wind of it? believe it or not straight to court. most people get away with it, but its harder if you are famous but not rich enough to dismiss the accusations. or if someone sues you for it of course.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you are telling me that when Israel makes their definition of "anti-semitism" illegal that everyone in the entire world that uses the internet has to abide by it? That doesn't seem desirable or sane at all.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

everyone in the entire world, israel

where did you get that from? i didn't say any of this.

[–] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That is the natural extension of your line of thinking is it not? Which users are "persecutable" by brazilian/Israeli law? If it's not just the citizens of Brazil (which i'm ok with, obviously a nation should be able to pass laws that apply to their citizens) but everyone "persecutable," doesn't that mean that a country that is sufficiently able to persecute anyone in the world is now justified to enforce their laws upon the entire world?

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago

its really not.

brazil is not israel. brazil can't meddle anywhere else without serious consequences.

and yes, it would suck if it was a nazi country, but its not.

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