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No one is in danger strictly because of 20 over. Please. Our speed limits are insane and not grounded in safety.
I never really looked into this (relation between speed limits and accidents/safety), so I figured I'd verify your statement with a quick google search and it turns out you've got it all wrong. There is a deep well established link between speed limits and accident risk, see for example here:
https://road-safety.transport.ec.europa.eu/eu-road-safety-policy/priorities/safe-road-use/safe-speed/archive/speeding/speed-central-issue-road-safety/speed-and-accident-risk_en
Now you know! :)
We're talking about speeding and you post some study about absolute speed? GTFO🤣.
You want to talk about absolute risk? What's the increase in risk when you set an arbitrarily low speed limit on a highway clearly able to handle high speeds? When you look at the reality of induced road rage and creating large deltas in speed?
You'd be that politician giving yourself a pat on the back while ignoring the actual effects of your policy.
I would actually hear you answer these questions. I don't see how lengthening break zones, decreasing reaction time and so on wouldn't increase risks more than people being getting dangerously mad at the speedlimit. And as a cronic speeder i would like to have something other than shrugs and shitty excuse for my behavior.
Most people don't drive speed limits. They drive the speed the road is designed for. When you put arbitrarily slow limits on highways most speed. Those that don't then create dangerous speed deltas and road rage. These well known behaviors are already included and designed into the stats and engineering.
Typically highways will have higher percentage of fatal incidents but a much much much lower frequency and lower absolute number per mile. Well designed variable rate highways, even with a higher % fatality rate overall are safer.
NHTSA Road Type Crash Rate (per 100M VMT) Fatality Rate (per 100M VMT)
Urban Local Roads ~350–500+ ~1.5–2.0 Rural Local Roads ~200–300 ~2.0–3.0 Urban Collectors ~200–300 ~1.0–1.5 Urban Arterials ~100–200 ~1.2–1.8 Rural Arterials ~80–150 ~1.5–2.5 Urban Freeways/Interstates ~60–100 ~0.5–1.0 Rural Interstates ~40–80 ~0.6–1.3
By pushing traffic more quickly and reducing congestion you'll lower the totals while increasing the frequency that an individual is killed.
The speed must be designed into the infrastructure and if you're designing roads where you commonly have a 20 mph delta it's likely a shitty designed urban artery. And unless you're going to invest in trains and start kicking people off the road or put them into debt for speeding, people are going to do what makes sense at the time.
Thank you for a well writen respone!