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[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Thought for sure it was going to be because of the food coloring, but no, it's because they add stuff made from crude oil.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (5 children)

There are tons of things derived from petroleum, and it has no bearing on its saftey. It's just the most abundant and cheap source to synthesis molecules from.

Like acetic acid, aka vinegar. Historically made from fermented sugars... today, it is commerically synthesis from methanol, which is mostly made from petro or natural gas.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

and it has no bearing on its saftey

Seems like a definitive statement that's contradicted be a lot of studies, which is why these ingredients are banned in the UK. See for instance, https://ucfoodquality.ucdavis.edu/chemical-contaminants/mineral-oil-mosh-moah

The health risks posed by MOSH and MOAH depend on the specific chemical structures and levels of exposure. Their accumulation is observed in human tissues, depending on the specific compound. Long-term exposure has been linked to liver granulomas and potential hepatic damage (EFSA, 2012). MOAH compounds are more concerning as some MOAH are known or suspected carcinogens, mutagens, or reproductive toxins (WHO, 2003)

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The health risks posed by MOSH and MOAH depend on the specific chemical structures and levels of exposure.

How does that contradict what i said?

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what your overall point is. The post is about how those things contain a petroleum-based product that's been found to be unhealthy. You said there are lots of petroleum-based products and they aren't bad for you. I posted a link saying that these ones are, and you asked how that contradicted you.

So tell me again what your initial point was?

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Thought for sure it was going to be because of the food coloring, but no, it's because they add stuff made from crude oil.

Your comment reads as if you think things made from 'crude oil' is 'unhealthy'.

[–] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

It didn't seem necessary to say unhealthy things made from crude oil. This is an area that I'm not super knowledgeable, so I went looking. It turns out that the jury is out on whether any of the petroleum-based additives are safe. Even the ubiquitous propylene glycol is getting more scrutiny now, though partly because it's in so many things that people are commonly ingesting more than the levels generally regarded as safe.

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