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I've outlined it in other threads, so I'll just link to a few of them instead of repeating myself.
Thanks for sharing!
From my perspective, the best way to deal with toxicity (whatever that might be for a given individual) is to have multiple accounts and to have regular "time out" periods where you only use the non-politics accounts. This is of course not viable if you are a single admin.
Then there is the issue of making the most of a bad situation. Even though for me tankies are mortal enemies (including the Lemmy Devs), I see usage of Lemmy (well the Threadiverse) being a less worse choice than using American commercial social media.
With the Threadiverse, there is a weak light at the end of the tunnel. We may never get there, but it's there. On the other hand American social media is an intellectual, moral and even economic (I am actually serious about this) dead end. That's why I use the Threadiverse, although I am trying to slowly move off Lemmy to Piefed for obvious reasons.
Just sharing some thoughts in context of your very justified comments on the Threadiverse. I am not necessarily trying to change your mind or prove anything. :)
From a user's perspective, yep, that can and does typically work.
I'm looking at things from a higher vantage point, though: The health, safety, and reputation of Lemmy and the Threadiverse as a whole.
As it stands, I'm embarrassed to tell people what I do in my spare time (run an instance and interact on Lemmy). You get a "normie" coming in off the streets, and what are they going to think jumping into this place? Are they going to want to stick around? I genuinely feel this place is on track to becoming the next 4chan, and that's with me being largely (though not entirely) desensitized to much of this stuff. I can't imagine how fresh eyes would interpret the atmosphere here.
And like one of the linked comment threads mentioned: We need the normies. If we want this place to succeed, we need them. Otherwise, it's going to continue distilling down to the most extreme views as more and more of the rational people call it quits. And I just can't see normies wanting to come here and stick around the way things are. Not without a LOT of work curating things, but I can't see them wanting to do that either.
Agreed.
Having tired to have rational discourse here about anything related to the outside world (without things immediately devolving to extremes), combined with the demographic overlap between Piefed and Lemmy, I strongly disagree lol
Same.
The Threadiverse is definitely not ready for "normies". Even if we ignore the extremism, the on-boarding, UX, service provision stability, topical coverage is not at the point where normies can join.
I've told people about the Fediverse as a concept, but I haven't suggested anyone try it, as I don't think it's ready.
I will note that I personally think the federated model isn't inherently too complex, it just needs better UI/UX and the network needs to be larger (e.g. 1 M MAU, 50 K DAU with coverage of at least 5 major langauges).
I am not really sure there is any magical solution to dealing with extremism. Better mod tools, a development focus on automated admin work will help, but I don't think it will solve the root cause. IMO it's not technical problem, it's a social issue that's also present in mainstream corporate network (albeit it can be more subtle there).