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[–] Prox@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago (9 children)

You guys have designers??

My buddy works with a big government org and they just let the engineers/SW devs "handle" all the design on their own. Sometimes they get kinda lucky and the dev took one or two UI/UX course back in school, but regardless they end up with a bunch of software that's all utility, no usability.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

As a software engineer, if its utility is high then so is its usability.

[–] Brownboy13@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

As a front-end dev, I disagree. You can make something optimized for utility from multiple perspectives. It might be for power users or for the ability to see as much data in one place, or even to change and configure as many things as possible. But these approaches don't necessarily make it user friendly. Sometimes the most usable flow requires deoptimization.

Have you seen the old SAP UIs? Lots of utility. Complicated as hell usability.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

I guess there’s a reason I run Linux - I can make it work the way /I/ want it to - and not some way somebody at Microsoft thinks I want it to.

As someone who maintains old software and is looking for a new job, you seem to be indicating I should be a back end dev lol

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hard disagree. If your web app needs a user guide, it's a bad web app. Design has to provide something that's intuitive to the end user nowadays.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Have you tried reading the man page?

[–] RainDog@piefed.social 2 points 4 days ago

I prefer tldr (or tealdeer)!

Depends on the task. Sometimes you need to aboid sacrificong too much utility.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 3 points 4 days ago

Just look at the Lemmy UI vs basically every third party app. Same utility but vastly different usability.

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