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Anon talks about Joe Rogan
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From my knowledge of them (which is sadly non-zero), I think Ben Shapiro fits the first description better.
my favorite Shabibo moment was when he had a "debate" with a famous Tory broadcaster in the UK and got dunked on so hard he called him a leftist.
He was promoting a book about how the left is quick to anger and intolerant at the time to boot, but of course his go to insult was to call someone a leftist.