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Should I vote? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 2 weeks ago by babysmokesalot@sh.itjust.works to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

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Should I vote Republican to slow down full blown let it all hang out fascism because I don't want to vote Democrat? I am trying to hack a machine that just needs recycled. What a dusty old thing. I have had it with both. The more both parties go at each other the greater the odds of a environment ripe with revolutionary potential. Like I know things are only going to get worse. Has anyone else thought of being a obstructionist? Like some how I am removed from the material conditions. Voting reminds me of the plaform at 3:10.

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[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 weeks ago (17 children)

My take, if you don't vote, you don't have the right to complain, simple as that.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Why?

Why should voting status be the be all and end all of who gets their grievances taken seriously?

[–] Mereo@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

In history, we learn two things. Either you can work within the system by voting, pressuring the government to change its stance, or striking like the French. Or, you can spark a revolution to change the current order.

If you don't vote, you're being passive, like Humpty Dumpty, just looking at the world pass you by without making your mark.

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you don’t vote, you’re being passive

This simply does not follow. Would you call those who work within unions, direct action groups, etc. (avenues that have provably lead to real change while voting in the west never has) passive? Using voting as some grand gauge is immensely flawed (especially given the system in the west where voting is nothing but a spectacle that has no ability to provide systemic change and truly address the major grievances of the masses).

[–] Geobloke@aussie.zone -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would expect that people involved in unions and direct action groups to vote on top their other work. It's the smallest thing you can do, if you can't do that, why should I trust you to have done anything else?

[–] QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 weeks ago

Because as I posited at the beginning of this exchange many people have come to realise that in the west under the current liberal democratic system voting is nothing more than spectical that provides no real avenue for meaningful change. All that being said I am not against voting just that the idea of taking what is under the current system in the west a meaningless action as the be all and end all of who to take seriously is silly.

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