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In July, Lockheed Martin completed the build of NASA’s X-59 test aircraft, which is designed to turn sonic booms into mere thumps, in the hope of making overland supersonic flight a possibility. Ground tests and a first test flight are planned for later in the year. NASA aims to have enough data to hand over to US regulators in 2027.

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[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I imagine the same was asked when jet planes were first invented, now look at where we are.

NASA is likely doing this with tax dollars because private industry has little reason to push forward research that does not yield an immediate ROI. Not yielding an immediate ROI is a very myopic driver of priorities.

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

In the west, jet engines were developed to kill fascists and communists. The ROI was good.

I don't see the parallel

[-] zephyreks@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

Weren't jet engines developed by the Germans to kill the Allies?

[-] alcoholicorn@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Both sides developed jet engines. The allies didn't get them into a fighter until after the war though.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

They were in development in various countries simultaneously, Spain would have likely gotten there first if not for Franco. Germany did manage the first jet fighter and bomber though, with Britain not long after

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Everyone was developing them, more or less. The thing is, the enemy doesn't usually share their tech with you so you've got to develop programs independently.

[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you claiming that the idea of the jet engine, prototyping, and finalization of the jet engine was entirely sparked by what you're referring to? I would argue that there's a long line of research leading up to what you're referring to that would've resulted in the questions you're asking.

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

Yes, I am. Although the concept of a jet engine was known about for a long time it was only prototyped and finalized for the war effort. Since the Germans knew they were going to war first, they had a head start and finished first.

Everyone else launched reactionary programs. The goal of America's program was to kill fascists, but they didn't finish before the war's end. Afterwards they pivoted to communists.

[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

And what of the folks who developed the concept of a jet engine?

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago
[-] papertowels@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nevermind the increasingly feasible steps between the Egyptians and the folks of WW2, I imagine even the Egyptians had some naysayers commenting on the lack of practicality for the little spinning ball. Where was the ROI there?

What would've happened if whoever invented precursors, at any stage, of modern jets listened to naysayers whose main argument was "the common man cannot afford this"?

[-] lntl@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago

I understand what your trying to say, I just don't think it's true. The capitalist class came up with the intermediate steps, for profit, during the industrial revolution.

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