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Just a few years ago people were talking about how in the future mass migrations would happen because of climate change like it was some distant problem. Well, it's happening now and people are already being displaced.
I understand displacement is going to be a challenge, but let me offer some hope. Although it will be hard check out just how much land mass we have around the poles. It’s a fucking lot. For example you can take everyone in America and send them to Alaska and give them 1sq mile as land and still have a shit ton of land leftover.
If there were suddenly 10 million more people in Alaska, they wouldn't have homes, water access, food, heat, etc.
Building out those services takes time and resources, and the issue with mass climate migrations is they are coming sooner than governments are planning for and will sap resources.
That's not whet the user was saying, he was just giving an example of landmass proportional to a population to explain that mass displacement isn't an issue of space.
Obviously there are other challenges, and he's not even giving a solution, just a comparison of space.
But land area hasn't been a thing since the industrial revolution. The wealth of most nations isn't dependent on sustenance farming.
You are right, infrastructure will be the biggest limiter during this crisis I feel.