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[-] riceandbeans161@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

it cannot exist

meat is inherently the most inefficient way of consuming calories, let alone the pain, suffering and horror it causes.

there’s no morally or ethically correct way to eat meat, unless you’re an indigenous tribe that literally has no other option.

[-] fr0g@feddit.de 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Efficiency of calorie acquisition is not the same as sustainability though. Culling an overpopulation of deer that keeps a forest from developing or an invasive species that is wreaking havoc on an ecosystem can both be a net positive on the ecosystem and in terms of sequestering carbon. Meanwhile growing crops on former rainforest land is a clear net negative.

Those are edge cases though of course and with your average store selection, going with plant-based will just about always be more sustainable.

[-] aeternum@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

you have to ask, why are they becoming overpopulated though? And the answer is, because animal ag. Farmers kill the natural predators because they fuck with their animals that we eat.

[-] fr0g@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

The reason those predator species got killed to near extinction is probably a bit more broad and ugly than just concern for lifestock.

But you're correct of course that the main reason for the current overpopulation of many non-invasive species is a lack of predators and they should be reintroduced. But that's also not a thing that can happen from one day to the next, so even in the most optimistic scenarios some degree of human wildlife management still has a purpose.

[-] charje@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Many farmers growing plants for animal feed. Also there are Deer farms that raise deer specifically for the hunting industry.

[-] vrojak@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I would argue lab grown meat is fine, but afaik it is still more resources intensive to produce than, like, tofu. And it's not like it's going to be available in appreciable amounts in the near future.

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