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this post was submitted on 14 Sep 2023
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_China_Morning_Post
You can follow the sources there to their articles
But now you know :)
Ah yes, citing Wikipedia... who's sources explicitly state that Beijing never contacts them and that Jack Ma'a policy has been to be skeptical of the government's role. Classic.
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Turns out, when you shift your focus from being a purely Hong Kong-oriented paper to an international one, your editorial scope changes.
When in Hong Kong writing about mainland China, you can afford to be more critical because your readership has a pretty fair view of mainland China (given that, y'know, they're literally right beside it}. When writing for the international audience, there are far more things that need to be cleared up.
As I showed above, SCMP is clearly deviating pretty far from Beijing's policy (in large part because Alibaba and Jack Ma have always maintained a somewhat skeptical stance relative to the government) and often comes out openly against Beijing's positions. All you've shown me is people saying "oh no but Alibaba is Chinese and China is bad and thus SCMP is bad." Just the tiniest but racist, don't you think?
I gave you my own experience, you didn’t believe it
I used Wikipedia as a link aggregator for you to see more reputable interpretations
https://www.youtube.com/@SouthChinaMorningPost/videos
Find the anti-CCP video
I found anti Korea and anti Japan instantly
I can find an anti-China video:
https://youtu.be/eI6a4xRwLQQ?si=1c5yJlUutFDpy7jr
https://youtu.be/0AOUKMZOImM?si=9YTZcJA1O30rp-5y
https://youtu.be/DHl89m6dkYY?si=_VAqL2waYsdffyvg
https://youtu.be/9xhwKeqG_p8?si=JgGYnZH8SB9aiCpc
Meanwhile your source is... Fucking Wikipedia lmfao. The article isn't even cited properly given that it mentions 3 sources and only links to two. There's a reason Wikipedia isn't considered a reliable source.
My source was myself, I gave you Wikipedia to let you click through to more than one source of other opinions
Stop being an idiot
I'm an idiot because I gave you videos contrary to your point? How is it my fault that Google thinks you're on an anti-Japan/anti-Korean binge?
Not everything is a conspiracy against you. Google thought that those recommendations would get you to think about YouTube more (and eventually watch more content). Judging by your behaviour, I'm guessing it was right.
You’re an idiot for getting hung up on seeing a Wikipedia link
Ah yes, because you refuse to see evidence contradicting your point (i.e. first party source) and choose to hide behind second- and third-party "sources."
Classic.
It was faster for me to post 1 link that already had 2 links on it than it was for me to post those 2 links and I over estimated your intelligence in being able to click through
Those links still aren't first-party sources, though? Either way, I quoted from that article and I did provide first-party evidence, neither of which you have addressed. There is nothing to indicate that, as you claim, SCMP only posts pro-China and anti-Korea/anti-Japan content.
Do you enjoy being confidently wrong, or do you just enjoy being confident and are wrong by circumstance?
Increasing tourism isn’t anti-ccp
Phone harassment maybe but it’s a stretch to think someone seeing that is going to think it is state sponsored
Falling housing market is just normal news
Unemployment is just normal news
Did you actually watch the videos, or do you just look at the title and make your conclusion? Here's some more:
https://youtu.be/zt7afB22S1U?si=JcN7vZrswgtLS69G
https://youtu.be/Ug2Eeflo5ao?si=5J9HwdLwOJuRctQS
https://youtu.be/CTU0FNo5HE8?si=0q1vp_t3SEzd4OUQ
And here's some more pro-Japan/Korea content:
https://youtu.be/T30C3-K-PmA?si=KgioEIEVDli5SCqi
https://youtu.be/VucIYdBvsCM?si=l8xbHPOWBblQi0CP
What exactly is this viscerally anti-Japan/Korea government content you speak of?