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submitted 11 months ago by UrLogicFails@beehaw.org to c/gaming@beehaw.org

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At some point, getting Nintendo would be a career moment and I honestly believe a good move for both companies. It's just taking a long time for Nintendo to see that their future exists off of their own hardware. A long time.... :-)

Email chain between Phil Spencer, Chris Capossela, and Takeshi Numoto discussing the potentially hostile purchase of Nintendo, ZeniMax, WB Games, and TikTok

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[-] ampersandrew@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Boy would I love to see Nintendo's future in the hands of anyone except Nintendo. That's the only way their future will be off their own hardware, and probably the only way they become less of a barrier to game preservation. For those of you afraid of Microsoft absorbing Nintendo and becoming a monopoly, check the date on that e-mail and rest assured they can't get away with it anymore anyway.

[-] Tearcell@mastodon.gamedev.place 23 points 11 months ago

@ampersandrew @UrLogicFails for better or worse Nintendo does things their own way. You can bet you'd see yearly mario kart releases if that IP belonged to anyone else, and I don't think that would be for the better.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 11 months ago

You mean we won't have to buy ewaste electronics to play Mario Kart? Sign me up.

Realistically though, I'd bet on a "Mario Kart Mushroom Kingdom Racing" release (or something) that would just be a cross platform live service.

... and honestly I'll take that any day over Nintendo, which I've given $0 in over a decade because I refuse to buy their ewaste. I would love to have their games on PC though.

[-] Tearcell@mastodon.gamedev.place 8 points 11 months ago

@Dark_Arc weirdly all my old consoles and games work. I've definitely made more e-waste from PC and upgrades over the years than consoles. (let's not talk about phones...)

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 11 months ago

PC parts can be reused and resold until they're irrelevant. Decades old PC software can run on the latest hardware (often much better than it did on its original hardware).

Meanwhile, consoles do one job only, play games. If something breaks, more often than not you get an entirely new console; maybe the manufacturer actually fixes your old one (if they're still working on it).

They also lose security updates and become opportunities for botnets to infect and exploit. No device should be used past its end of software life that's connected to the Internet. Regardless of that, many people do continue to use old consoles and smart phones that are long past their socially responsible expiration date.

Beyond that, if someone has a computer capable of playing a game, to force them to buy a different piece of hardware is by definition unnecessary ewaste.

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Decades old PC software can run on the latest hardware (often much better than it did on its original hardware).

This is increasingly less true as the software dependencies get more complicated. See also, Rockstar selling pirated games because that was the way to get it running...

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Window's compatibility layer is still far beyond what a console provides. Beyond that, WINE (for Linux) is increasingly able to run Windows programs from many decades... In a sense, Linux is becoming the best Windows compatibility layer for old software and games in the world.

You don't need to reach 100% to provide value/be better.

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