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The Bible is not just a long list of rules. Any random page probably has less than a 5% chance of containing any particular thing to "follow". The chance of landing on a page with an illegal commandment is next to none.
Yeah, quite a bit of the Bible would get you landed in jail so let's not act like the idea of Bible charades roulette isn't funny as fuck. If nothing else it's a fresh new way to highlight the hypocrisy of scripture in modern society.
What does this mean though? How does just reading some random story get you put in jail? It’s like you read their comment and them completely ignored everything it said.
you're arguing in bad faith about a bad faith
How is that arguing in bad faith. You just made a rather witty hut ultimately meaningless reply to my comment. You said “Yeah, quite a bit of the Bible would get you landed in jail”, but the comment you were replying to talked about how this point wasn’t true. And your reply to their comment was essentially: Yeah whatever, but here’s what you just disproved but I’ve restated it.
How is that a reply that makes any sense?
It's bad faith because you're willfully ignoring the parameters set forth in the op. Obviously reading the Bible isn't going to land you in jail (at least in the west). The act of reading anything isn't going to get you incarcerated. The whole point of this post was "read and act".
How do you act out a random page in the bible, like the top comment here said, it’s mostly stories and histories wrote down. So when they reply saying that most of the bible would land you in jail, what does that mean? Does that mean if I copied out the stories that are likely false in the bible, most of which happened 2000 years ago or older. My point is, how do you act that out? How do you act out most of the bible because most of it requires a divine interference. You can’t just copy it out because it’s a story, in the same way I can’t wave a magic wand and shout expeliamus and throw magic at them.
How do people reenact famous battles? Recorded history, real or fabricated, can still be instructive. Take Ezekiel 9:
An order given by God himself, to slaughter an entire city for the grievous sin of not worshipping him. Not even the children were to be spared. And yes, like most stories in the Bible, it's likely almost entirely bullshit, but the human cruelty it conveys, and the moral justification it provides, is all too real. And if you've ever dealt with any real religious nutjobs, like the snake-handling, tongues-speaking Baptists I grew up around, then you know that the human brain, when fueled by delusion, is more than capable of conjuring a perceived supernatural experience.
If what you wrote there is how their post gets translated in your mind then yeah it doesn't make sense but for most of us it's not going through some sort of word blender.
I’m sorry to say that I’m lost on which post you are referring to.
From what I understand, the original post is an image that says, open a random bible page, do exactly what it says and the last person to end up in jail wins.
But as the top comment, under which this reply exists, states, if you turned to a random page in the bible you would be unlikely to land on a page which explicitly gives instruction. Which means to me, that you would not be able to turn to a random page and do exactly as stated because you would likely be reading some random story. And obviously the act of reading the story isn’t what I’m talking about, but to act out this story seems difficult, since quite a few of the stories in the bible talk about God or someone divine interfering. How could you act out a divine intervention? You would end up in jail, but not for committing a crime as is implied, however for being a Don Quixoteesque mad man who is acting out stories from the bible.
I simply don’t understand how this post can be anything other than slander directed at christianity snd the bible, because it’s clear to me that it isn’t possible to act out most stories in the bible. And what’s more, this post, to me, gives off the idea that people who follow christianity must be completely oblivious to the fact that it’s an ancient book and that they must follow everything written in it like it’s their own biological code.
But if this isn’t what you gather from this post, would you please explain your viewpoint because I am rather confused.
You seem to feign ignorance a lot.
Is my point not valid, that ultimately you cannot go into the bible pick a random page and act it out, it’s physically not possible for a large amount of pages.
You didn’t even attempt to correct my view although I asked you to explain it if your viewpoint was any different. I genuinely want to know how you see this post if you understand it differently to how I do. Because to me, my understanding is the only one that can logically be drawn from this post.
My point is you are disingenuous while trying to make your real point.
If you do not want to explain yourself to me then fine, make your single sentence reply that contains 10-20 words saying nothing at all. I gave you everything that I was seeing and you give me “you bad” in return. There is no point in trying to find out more from someone who acts this way.
You're mistaking quantity for quality. You were pretending that the scenario was just reading the passage. You were pretending that you didn't know I was talking about the post I had directly replied to. You are disingenuous and dishonest so as you put it yes "you bad".
The op premise isn't to just read the story is it?
So you would read some random story and just act it out as written? Say I turn to the story of Job in the bible, what am I supposed to act out there? Am I supposed to pretend to be Satan and destroy the fuck out of Job? Am I supposed to be God and allow someone else to destroy Job’s life? Or am I supposed to be Job and just hope that everything that happened to him also happens to me?
It just doesn’t make sense.
Ephesians 4:29 (New International Version) Do not let any unwholesome talk come out of your mouths, but only what is helpful for building others up according to their needs, that it may benefit those who listen.
You're not helping their needs.
Edit: The words of the Teacher,[a] son of David, king in Jerusalem:
2 “Meaningless! Meaningless!” says the Teacher. “Utterly meaningless! Everything is meaningless.”
Maybe if we read the comment we could find out, but maybe someone else can tell me what it says, and I’ll just blindly believe them instead. Oh and here’s 10% of my paycheck!
The Bible rarely tells you specifically what to do. Most of it is more of a history of the Jewish people, writing down things that happened inside of a religious context.
After all, the book of Numbers is almost entirely just a genealogical list ( namat begat numat, etc ) so unless you guys want me to give birth to 15 generations of human beings it's practically impossible to follow as an instruction.
I mean yeah sure, if you blindly copy things that people were reputed to have historically done in a modern context then you are likely to get into some kind of trouble for that.
Maybe only a few odd stares from your neighbors as you put lambs blood on your door or burn only extra virgin olive oil at the stone altar made of stones that were never worked by human tools in your back yard.
And there's nothing illegal about lusting over big old penises or preaching in Galilee, but many people would find it at best difficult to tell dead people to rise and walk or to fast for 40 days and nights in the desert.
It may not be explicitly stated as a rule to follow, but on almost every page there are certainly actions that could be emulated. The OP didn't specify rules or commandments; they said "open to a page and do what is written on that page".
Slaughter an entire city of men, women, children and livestock? Yeah, that's on the list, and was in fact an order given by sky daddy himself.
Fuck your daughters? That's in there too.
Sacrifice your child to prove your loyalty? Bingo. Another sky daddy special.