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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by PizzaMan@lemmy.world to c/conservative@lemmy.world

Friendly reminder:

https://dictionary.law.com/Default.aspx?selected=1903

It is hypocritical to claim to be the party of law and order when you support sedition, the interference of elections, and violence against political enemies.

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[-] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That second link is from a court case, which presumably would have his actual name. And again, I don't care too much if he is a troll or not. The fact that conservatives embrace him at all is a problem.

Red flag for what exactly?

For conservatism. I'm sure you've heard this quote before, "If there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, then you got a table with 11 Nazis." This guy may not be a literal Nazi, but he is waving the flag of fascism for one reason or another, and he is quite successful in the right wing sphere from what I can tell.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

What exactly are you implying?

[-] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm saying that fascism is a problem within conservatism. And guys like this are an example.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago

Fascism is a problem across all over the political spectrum. Look at any tankie post if you want left wing fascism.

[-] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, because if there is one thing fascists have been historically known for, it's been pro-communism. In case it wasn't clear, that was a joke, fascists put communists to death.

Tankies are terrible, but nowhere near as big of a problem. This isn't a both sides issue.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

Fascism as a term is vague and isn't limited to any one thing anymore, no one is talking about 1930s/1940s Italy anymore.

[-] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Fascism as a term is vague and isn’t limited to any one thing anymore

Then allow me to define it for you.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/fascism/Common-characteristics-of-fascist-movements

Call it neo-fascism if you like, it's the same shit just in modern times.

no one is talking about 1930s/1940s Italy anymore.

And yet the same ideology persists.

[-] Blamemeta@lemm.ee -5 points 1 year ago

I was talking more of "They don't want transwomen on the womens fishing team? Clearly fascist!" But even that brittanica article can't seem to come up with one good definition beyond "populist tyranny" which I guess works. And tankies definitely fall under that.

[-] PizzaMan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“They don’t want transwomen on the womens fishing team? Clearly fascist!

That's its own different kind of bigotry, unrelated to this particular issue.

And tankies definitely fall under that.

And this is whataboutism. And again, fascists have historically killed communists, so you're getting confused here. Tankies aren't fascists, they're bootlickers and authoritarians.

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