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[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 79 points 1 year ago

The notion that free* healthcare, free* education, subsidised transport, government provided unemployment supports etc is even labelled “socialist” strikes me as particularly American.

[-] Usul_00_@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Having lived for quite a long time in canada, I think most Americans would love the it.

Semi related - The USA is already socialist if you consider they have more spent per capita on healthcare, and pay for things like roads, police, fire departments, schools and the like. On the last point, they pay all the way through High School and then significantly subsidize universities as well. It's all a matter of degree. In the usa, we socialize on many fronts, and then pay companies more than we would pay to socialize the same service and consider that better. Imo, it's very much not.

[-] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure if spending more per capita means "socialize" healthcare. Isn't the problem with US healthcare is that "accessing healthcare at any time without the worry of financial burden" is not currently true for everyone?

[-] Usul_00_@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I think your definition is a fine one. I think the Nuance I was trying to make and perhaps did poorly was that the US already pays a huge amount for healthcare but we pay it to companies to do research that they then use to make profit worldwide. Not to provide services for everyone. It's a matter of priority

[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Socialism isn't a welfare state, socialism is when the workers own the means of production.

No no no

Socialism is when the government does things, and when the government does a lot of things, that's communism.

[-] rustyriffs@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

#jokeslibsthatwanthealthcaredontget

[-] Zerlyna@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Don’t forget the farmers who are subsidized.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 year ago

supports

That's a strut. Did you just mean 'support'?

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