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[-] ozoned@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

The TIL is Red Hat had publicly accessible source code for RHEL. They've removed that and only thing you see is their upstream contributions to CentOS Stream. So you can't build a RHEL counter part at this point, because their source isn't available.

This affects projects like Rocky Linux, Alma Linux, even Oracle Linux.

Fedora runs basically future code for CentOS Stream which is basically RHEL Next really.

Some folks, like I just read Jeff Geerling, are now deciding their code, he makes Ansible stuff, won't be guaranteed on RHEL because they can't publicly test it.

Red Hat is a corporate entity that justifies locking down open sources to satisfy the bottom line. I'm a disgruntled former employee though.

[-] hiyaaaaa23@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Okay what is centOS and how does it have a RHEL counterpart.

I’m not a total Linux noob but I mostly use arch and Debian based distros, I know almost nothing about the dynamics of centOS

[-] ozoned@beehaw.org 7 points 1 year ago

So Fedora is an "upstream" linux. So what that means is developers push their code directly into Fedora. Every 6 months, approximately, Fedora releases a new release. People on Fedora get that and file bugs and features to the next code.

CentOS Stream pulls from that. So they're more stable. They don't have the bugs that the Fedora folks hit (in theory), because it's been solved upstream. By the time it gets to them, down stream, it's been smoothed out.

Red Hat Enterprise Linux every once in a while will put a stake in the ground and say THIS is the code we're going with from CentOS Stream. Make sure THIS version works, and pull in any bug fixes.

To give you a "real" kind of idea. Let's say you have an application. We'll call it the hiya 0.2 version. Fedora pulls in hiya 0.2. Then you keep upgrading until you get to 1.0 then 2.0 then 3.0. Fedora pulls each of those in.

CentOS Stream slowly pulls those in.

Eventually Red Hat says Hiya is what we need in RHEL! Except you're going too fast. We want Hiya 1.0. BAM! Hiya 1.0 is going into RHEL 10. HOWEVER, since you're faster, you've solved bugs in Hiya in 2.0 and 3.0. So RHEL will say well we don't need that feature or that feature or that feature. But we DO need THAT bug fix in 2.0. So we take that bug fix and we backport it into OUR Hiya 1.1 code base. We do need THAT security fix in 3.0 to our code. So we make Hiya 1.2.

This is a VERY simplified version. And I'm not certain anymore on the interaction between CentOS Stream and RHEL. But that's generally how it works.

[-] TWanderer@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Very nice explanation

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