Did we not vote to defederate exploding heads several days ago? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by socialjusticewizard@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

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I was there, I saw the thread. @TheDude, did you? It was pretty strongly in favour. Do we really need to keep waiting around to see if an instance administrated by a guy who wants to declare "cis" a slur is going to turn out okay?

https://sh.itjust.works/post/216888 for context.

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[-] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I really don't like this flood of "can we defed this instance because i don't like their ideology" posts.
Sure, you (and me) might find it offensive, but some others might not, and it shouldn't be us that get to decide what is right for them.

I agree that genuinely illegal/unethical instances like that anime cp one mentioned in another comment should be defederated, but I believe these political instances (exploding heads, lemmygrad, etc) should be federated with, and the user should be the one that blocks them.

Maybe this would be different if there were a lot of extremist instances that the user would have to block individually, but with the current low amount I think it's best to give the user the choice.

[-] chetchaka@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

This is all easy to say for non-trans folk who aren't being targeted for the next genocide. If we allow users like this to hide behind crypto-fascist rhetoric, vulnerable minority communities will be overwhelmed and pushed out by the sheer volume of hatred.

I am completely unfamiliar with federation as a concept so there may not be a way to effectively moderate an entire instance consisting of several communities, but if there is a way to protect vulnerable communities without de-federaring, it needs to be done.

[+] markeuzu@exploding-heads.com -12 points 1 year ago

WHY are vulnerable people joining a decentralized system? Isnt this why you want a closed, not for public eyes community?

Also genocide? What? Acceptance is extremely high and on the up thanks to a plethora of institutions working HARD to improve the image of trans people. You dismiss all their hard work by calling trans people ripe for genocide.

You have some extreme views and I recommend you touch some grass, not even ironically. Nobody is planning a genocide on trans people.

[-] DiaryOfJayne@vlemmy.net 9 points 1 year ago

https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/june-anti-trans-legislative-risk

Transphobes want us dead, call it whatever you like. Whether or not acceptance is high in general, the extremists are still fighting hard at the state level in the US, which usually spreads ideologically to other countries.

[-] can@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Easy, we defederate all Americans.

[-] markeuzu@exploding-heads.com 2 points 1 year ago

Moving the goalposts. You call this a genocide, its a far cry from it. About half the states respect, and provide support.

Whatever they do in red states isnt nice, but you arent being genocided by a bunch of boomers.

In fact, I think you are vulgar for comparing your strugglings with people like the jewish, ughurs, black africans who got and get genocided on a daily basis.

You dont know what struggle is and this makes your comment very tasteless.

I also notice a weird concidence where most transgender people I meet in real life have zero of the struggles outlined by people online. They a job, partner and get sufficient healthcare. They are respected, except by people of certain religions.

Again, I will respectfully ask you to stop comparing your struggle to a genocide, as it is not.

You are a marginalized group that is bullied and pushed around by boomers in suits.