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Zelensky: Israel has ‘indisputable’ right to defend itself from terror (www.timesofisrael.com)

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Ukraine’s Jewish president says world must stand united against terror as Hamas launches deadly surprise assault

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, whose country is fending off a Russian invasion, said Saturday that Israel had an unquestionable right to defend itself from attacks from Palestinian terrorists.

The Hamas terror group launched an unprecedented assault on Israel in the morning, firing thousands of rockets, sending gunmen into Israeli communities and military bases by land, sea and air, killing at least 200 people, injuring over 1,400, and taking hostages.

“Israel’s right to defense is indisputable,” Zelensky, who is Jewish, said on Telegram.

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[-] stifle867@programming.dev 36 points 10 months ago

Personally, it's hard to agree with either side when there are very clearly religious motivators. Both sides have done things that are clearly wrong. It's not about people vs state, or people vs foreign state, it's always framed as Jewish vs Muslim. It's hard to imagine a future where each side does not stop until the other is wiped out. It's hard for people of different religions to live in harmony when the state is so intertwined with religion. Israel gets a lot of international support because at least they have a relatively stable government.

[-] jochem@lemmy.ml 28 points 10 months ago

It's also hard to imagine people will live in harmony when one side literally enforces an apartheid regime on the other side.

[-] stifle867@programming.dev -2 points 10 months ago

Agreed, but again, both sides are not innocent here.

[-] Yawnder@lemmy.zip 9 points 10 months ago

The civilians in both sides are not equal imo.

On the Palestinians side, the Hamas isn't an elected group. It's an independent terrorist group. People that don't get recruited, and people that don't harbor them willingly are innocent.

On the Israelites side, anyone that voted for the governments that commit those atrocities are slightly more guilty in my eyes.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

They seized control later on, but Hamas was elected in 2006. Still though, of course there's plenty of Palestinians who don't support Hamas

[-] Tenniswaffles@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

Guilty enough to deserve death?

[-] Yawnder@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

Absolutely not. I'm not saying that what's the Hamas is doing is fine. I'm just calling out the hypocrisy of the whole situation.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Something this attack has shown is that we interchangeably make geopolitical statements and value judgments -- or rather, that there is no distinction between the two in discourse. Talking about how Israel's far right policies are responsible for this is a geopolitical analysis for instance, but that in no way diminishes value judgments that the murderers are to blame for the murders. I suspect this difference between "how we got here" and "what just happened" is causing a lot of tension and miscommunication.

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