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I didn't used to understand foreign involvement in wars, like the whole America-Vietnam shenanigans. But I can see why after watching this Israeli Palestine Conflict since birth.

But now it's like watching two children fighting over who's sandcastles can be built in the sandbox. And what do we do if children can't learn to share? You take away everything and no one is happy.

So is that what this is going to come to? Do adults need to intervene to quell the infants?

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[-] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

It’s not so much two infants irrationally arguing. Israel has owned some of this land for three generations. So the folks living there have passed it down as long as they’ve been alive. But another group owned it first, and the oldest among them remember the days before the occupiers came.

It’s like if the Cherokee decided to go full on guerrila warfare in the 1940s. Would they maybe have a point? How would it square with folks that had already been there for 80 years? It’s the settlers generational home now, too. Everyone has legitimate greivances. It’s not about settling tantrums, it’s about mediating between people that have legitimate but mutually exclusive claims.

[-] ccunix@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

The problem goes back further. You say "another group owned it first", but Israel say they have had that land for millennia and it was given to them by God.

Palestine did not even exist until the British randomly carved it out on a map except for a brief period under the Romans around 0BC. The Romans called it Palestine in order to remove Israel's identity.

How far back do we go?

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

My God said your home belongs to me so...gtfo. Please, leave something in the fridge for dinner. /s

Palestinians themselves, like Jews, descend from the ancient Hebrews. While the Jews left and (somewhat) assimilated in the lands they moved to, Palestinians were assimiliated by the Romans and Arabs. While their language and religion changed they are basically the same people.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

And like any good brothers they go full Cain and Abel.

[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If my brother steals my house from me and leaves me in squalor...

Let's just say Christmas dinner won't be a happy one.

[-] Welt@lazysoci.al 1 points 1 year ago

Cain disAbeled his brother...

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