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The people who tell you that you are poor because you get coffee at a coffee shop every day. At best you would save ~$2000/year if you bought $5 cup everyday. $2000 saved would not be a significant amount of money to make in an investment either. Personal happiness isn't worth trying to cut out things you like.
It's all about context though. $2000 is substantial to much of the people who live on this planet. You're right about that amount in investment returns would be considered small, but the people who this amount is significant don't usually have investments to rely on.
Right but I'd you're that hard up, you're not going to be buying $5 coffee's every day. Poor is relative.
That's true, but I'd like to think the price of coffee scales where you live. A $5 coffee in Los Angeles is a $2 coffee in Madrid. So in general probably not a big difference wherever you are.
$2000 extra a year into a 401k over a lifetime of work is a substantial amount of money when you retire. This 401k calculator estimates it as $150k after 45 years. That sounds high to me but regardless $2k extra a year is a lot when you consider compound interest over decades.
you have to count inflation as well (although i believe us $ deprecates at a very less inflation rate) , but still the calculator you showed shows it can make 22% of total retirement fund
Plus I believe coffee is just a legal drug which is why its so prominent , and as such i shouldn't use it
But who knows maybe i will drink coffee as well?
This is a good philosophy. I gained a caffeine addiction because I wasn't aware that was a thing and now I don't wake up in the morning until I've had something with a bit of caffeine. It's not too bad, I just get a bad headache if I don't get any caffeine, but I'd prefer if I'd known that caffeine addiction was a thing so I could make an informed decision when I started drinking coffee
Every model simplifies reality in some way. Inflation, fees, stock/bond mix, tax rates, risk tolerance, and the biggest one of all market performance are all variables that the calculator doesn't seem to take into account to some degree.
If you can't make coffee at home, what else do you buy cos it's "only 5bucks" everyday for convenience.
100% - you can nickel and dime yourself to death.
Sure it might not be a huge amount in one year until you notice that it's not just a year, it's the rest of your life. then 30 years later you have saved $60000 with interest.
It's funny, the same people who told me the same thing spent their whole life saving money. 20 years later they are still saving money and haven't once traveled the world, still live in the same general area, but still are still saving their money. For what? I don't know. The most valuable commodity is your youth. Worth much more than $60k or $150k when your bones are withered.
You are on a frugal community dude, do you not get the whole point is convenient ways to save money. Making your own coffee or not drinking coffee at all is a very worthwhile endeavor. It takes about the same amount of time as drive to a coffee shop and get a drink. The only plausible thing I can think of is that you are being sarcastic. Otherwise just leave this community alone, some people actually need help and I don't really think you would have any valuable insights.
Sorry, my bad. I got to the post from /all and didn't pay attention to the community, for some reason my old brain thought it was ask lemmy. My bad. Delete my post :)
If you think it is worth it, then it is worth it.
That's $150 per month on coffee though. That's like another utility bill.
I think you will be happiest of all if you deposit $2000/year in my bank account, what do you think?