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[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

Duck duck go protects you from this, correct?

Why would anyone use Google after this precedent?

[-] hellequin67@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Headquartered in the US so I wouldn't guarantee it.
This was against Google specifically but I would imagine it would hold up against any US based search engine they felt someone was using.

[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago

Right, they must respond to a subpoena. But they don't retain search records, do they?

[-] MJBrune@beehaw.org 1 points 10 months ago

In some cases they must retain the information. Like your ISP in the USA had to retain data for le purposes.

[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Your statement contradicts their stated policy, and I'm not aware of any such requirement in the US.

https://duckduckgo.com/privacy

IP retention is addressed in the first paragraph under "privacy policy", and it stated they don't save or log it.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -4 points 10 months ago

How do you know? You don't control their servers

[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

Your point is not unique: all websites require your trust.

So if that's your threat model you can't use any search engine.

But if we want to put that aside and discuss their stated policy, then the link I provided addressed the parent statement that

In some cases they must retain the information. Like your ISP in the USA had to retain data for le purposes.

Which directly refutes that there is any such requirement.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip -3 points 10 months ago

You shouldn't trust any search engine. That's my point.

[-] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

In addition to being based in the US, DDG has had some issues with allowing Microsoft tracking on their DDG Browser. Their search does not have the same issues, but it might be wise to use TorBrowser to search anything you'd rather not explain in front of a judge.

[-] online@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

And remember there's a Duck Duck Go onion service: https://duckduckgogg42xjoc72x3sjasowoarfbgcmvfimaftt6twagswzczad.onion Proof: search on duckduckgo for "duckduckgo onion" and a widget appears in the search results.

Alternatively, set your tor browser to always prioritize onion addresses in the settings.

[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

Why would anyone use Google after this precedent?

They don't know any better.

[-] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago

Or they just don’t care. Most people I know don’t think twice about their online privacy and security. “Why should I care? I don’t have anything to hide.”

[-] trash80@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago

That is another reason.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

I think all search engines have this issue since law enforcement can step in any time.

The one exception might be proxy searches

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