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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by ad_on_is@lemmy.world to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

How can it possibly be, that an ISP, which I'm paying for gets to decid, which sites I'm allowed to have access to, and which not?

All the torrenting sites are restricted. I know, I can use VPN, and such... but I want to do it because of my privacy concerns and not because of some higher-up decided to bend over for the lobbying industry.

While on the other hand, if there's a data breach of a legit big-corp website (looking at you FB), I'm still able to access it, they get fined with a fraction of their revenue, and I'm still left empty-handed. What a hipocracy!!

What comes next? Are they gonna restrict me from using lemmy too, bc some lobbyist doesn't like the fact that it's a decentralized system which they have no control over?

Rant, over!

I didn't even know that my router was using my ISPs DNS, and that I can just ditch it, even though I'm running AdGuard (selfhosted)

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[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 28 points 10 months ago

Censorship is wrong. Every rational, adult human being should have the fundamental right to their autonomy, without third party intervention, with full awareness of the laws that apply to them.

If they decide to abuse that freedom and awareness by accessing illegal content (even CSAM), then they are taking the risk of being discovered, prosecuted, and punished accordingly. And, in many cases (like CSAM), I hope they are caught and punished.

Regardless of the outcome, it still starts with the freedom for that individual to make that decision for themselves.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

That's part of the price of freedom. Tor is a browser that makes it hard to be tracked down, so people use it to facilitate illegal activities. Crypto is a currency that makes it hard to be tracked down, so the same occurs. While most of us use and support these services for legal activities, just to be free from corporate and government oppression, there will always be people who use them to be from legal consequences.

Sadly, making it easier to find people who do things like post CSAM in turn makes it easier to find people who want to watch Porn without supplying a government ID. (Still can't believe my state of Virginia passed that law.)

[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 6 points 10 months ago

people who want to watch Porn without supplying a government ID

Yeah, and this is where the part of my comment that discussed "laws that apply" is nuanced. If the laws that apply are designed to abridge people's autonomy, and right to privacy,, then that's an unjust law.

[-] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

No disagreement here, just unsure if there will ever be a way to grant freedom to the common man without enabling unsavory actors as well.

[-] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Unsavory actors will find ways around any restriction put in their way. So these restrictions only serve to remove freedoms from the rest of us not commiting unsavory acts.

[-] DeltaTangoLima@reddrefuge.com 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah, sadly there isn't. I don't envy lawmakers - there's a knife edge they have to walk, between enabling them to catch the bad guys, but without infringing on the rights of the innocent.

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