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submitted 10 months ago by Jordan_Jordan@lemm.ee to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

2020 was... truly unique. It was so hard to stay away from doom scrolling, and I (and many others) were pretty disillusioned by the sad fact that so much of our country legitimately supported the Orange Man. I didn't get a wink of sleep the night of the election because I genuinely considered it to be a make or break decision for America.

My point is that looking back on it, in the end the only real difference I made was at the ballet box. This year I'm going for the Head-in-the-Sand approach. I'm done with the political memes. Done with the Twitter screenshots. It just riles me up and this year I'm gonna do my best to fight that.

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[-] thesmokingman@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

What, exactly, has Biden done to reverse anything Trump did? What, exactly, has his party done to reverse the changes made? Where’s the rhetoric condemning Trump? Where’s the sense of urgency to reverse course?

You’re not giving me any choices here ergo I’m choosing another option. If that means I’m supporting “the bad” then the experiment has failed and we’re just circling the drain. I can choose to actively support circling the drain or I can try something new. I’m not going to play the old game because it’s already lost.

[-] FoolishBrainiac@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago
[-] thesmokingman@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

The big issue here is that the Biden administration is attempting to play by some old rules the Trump administration and current Republicans ignore. Sure. They’re pushing policy. Where’s the daily executive order undoing something or adding something? Where are the test cases constantly being pushed up like the right is doing? Where is the constant rhetoric to combat the vitriol? Where is the tit-for-tat removal of federal support for states fucking with people? Sure, lots of it will get thrown out. Some of it sticks, though, like blocking Garland’s nomination, and then seven years later you have people on the internet saying the Biden administration, doing fuck all novel, is actually trying to make a stand.

[-] shiveyarbles@beehaw.org 0 points 10 months ago

None of that matters in practical terms. One choice leads to the end of democracy and tyranny, the other is not perfect but you still have freedoms and rights.

The two options are not the same. I'm not sure if you're receiving the signal

[-] thesmokingman@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

If you’re telling me I have one choice to avoid tyranny, that’s tyranny. There is no more democracy. The game is over. We lost. Why continue to do the same shit over and over expecting a different result? Why delay the inevitable?

If I vote Trump, I am supporting fascism. Not going to argue for anyone doing that; no positives in that camp.

If I vote for Biden, I give explicit support to attacks on labor, a complete lack of response to the attacks on everyone that Trump did, and prop up a party so supportive of our current Gilded Age you can’t talk shitty wealth policy without mentioning Democratic tech worship. War crimes, genocide, and surveillance were issues I’ve had with the party for years and Biden just continued them with a smile.

If I vote 3rd party, there’s a small chance something positive could happen. Worst case scenario it’s like I didn’t vote at all, but at least I didn’t vote to support fascism or billionaire ownership of common resources.

I have this debate a lot. If there’s only one choice in a two-party system, we don’t have a choice or a democracy. Call me all the names you want; I won’t vote for someone that thinks the way that Biden or Trump does about labor or foreign relations.

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