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if your opinion about israel is anything other than "death to israel, 1000 october 7s on the settlers until palestine is free from the river to the sea", fuck you (hexbear.net)

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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 92 points 11 months ago

Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.

Yes, obviously, what Israel is now doing is in no way defensive but taking their dishonest framing and directly rejecting it is good too.

[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Libs get real offended if you just flatly say that Israel does not have a right to defend itself.

liberal discourse about "rights" always misses the point anyway. Israel has always used the idea that it guarantees more "democratic rights" than the surrounding Arab states as evidence that it has measurehead SVPERIOR CVLTVRE frothingfash etc. etc.

Israel has the power to defend itself. Where does it get that power? From the imperial core states (especially NATO/EU members) pouring money into it. Why do they do that? Because settler colonies are forward operating bases for imperial core capitalists. You can set up a situation where people have "equal rights" on paper, but in practice, violence decides what the actual material conditions are. Segregation in the united states always claimed to be "separate but equal" even as black people were made to suffer systemic discrimination (and continue to be made to suffer obviously)