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[-] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 169 points 8 months ago

Ad blocker still works. They really want people to stop using YouTube though, don't they.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 90 points 8 months ago

The real problem is that barriers to entry for competition are insurmountable.

If I wanna compete, I gotta host those files somewhere. With Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. That's basically my whole list of options.

I mean, I can opt to do it myself, but... That's beyond David v Goliath. No way I could manage the amount of spam, CSA, DMCA, terrorism/misinformation and other shit that would seek to take the competition out.

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 12 points 8 months ago

IMO a lot of the attacks on independent and federated social media probably come from their corporate competitors. Who has the most to gain from flooding Lemmy with CSAM? Reddit, obviously.

[-] Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 8 months ago

The other reason why it's impossible is simply that nobody would upload their genuine content to your site because it doesn't get as much "engagement" as on YouTube. Social inertia is why YouTube can pretty much do whatever the fuck they want and people will stay.

Twitch is the same thing for livestreams. Not even Facebook using fuck-you money to literally buy exclusivity contracts with streamers could change that. People just didn't want to watch there (although I can understand their reluctance).

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 14 points 8 months ago

If you're using an ad-blocker or skipping ads, yes, they absolutely don't give a shit if you stop using it, because you provide zero value to them and are only consuming their resources.

[-] ElectroNeutrino@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Your metadata is still extremely valuable to them, and it's not limited to just watch history and likes, but rather everything on how you engage in their services, including where your mouse cursor sits.

[-] Moneo@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Parroting the angry me Yorker whose name I forgot. If you use an ad blocker your likely privacy aware and they don't get much/any meta data from you.

Also YouTube is extremely costly to run. They are making it abundantly clear you are not valuable to them if you aren't watching ads. You aren't that important.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

^ mostly this. Ad revenue from watched ads isnt all of their income, not even close

[-] AeroLemming@lemm.ee 5 points 8 months ago

If you block browser ads, they still make money off of you from mobile apps showing ads. If you use DNS-level blocking, they can still use your data to tailor ads for those around you.

[-] Womble@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

But the value per person they get from " use your data to tailor ads for those around you" a tiny amount and the amount they get from selling your eyeball space directly to paying customers is (comparatively) vast, I could easily see it being 1000x greater or even more. Youtube is going to war on adblockers for a reason.

[-] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago
[-] fruitSnackSupreme@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago

It doesn't work for me, on my PC I can only use freetube. YouTube doesn't work with ublock origin.

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