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Tesla Whistleblower Says 'Autopilot' System Is Not Safe Enough To Be Used On Public Roads (jalopnik.com)

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Tesla Whistleblower Says 'Autopilot' System Is Not Safe Enough To Be Used On Public Roads::"It affects all of us because we are essentially experiments in public roads."

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[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Someone paying proper attention probably would be. But a huge chunk of accidents happen because idiots are looking at their phones or fall asleep on the wheel, and at least a self driving cars, even Teslas on Autopilot, won't do that.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 11 months ago

No, they just relinquish control to a sleepy driver without a warning whenever they are about to crash.

[-] anotherandrew@lemmy.mixdown.ca 4 points 11 months ago

We aren’t at the point yet — with any self-drive car — where you should be behind the wheel unless you’re absolutely capable of taking over in seconds.

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

If you are referring to autopilot, yeah, technically it does that - it turns off once it realises it can't do anything anymore to avoid the collision so that it doesn't speed off afterwards due to damaged sensor or glitches etc. But the whole "autopilot turns off so it doesn't show in statistics" was a blatant lie as Tesla counts all crashes where it has been on before the crash.

[-] tagliatelle@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Do they count the times the human driver had to take control to avoid a crash?

[-] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We also receive a crash alert anytime a crash is reported to us from the fleet, which may include data about whether Autopilot was active at the time of impact. To ensure our statistics are conservative, we count any crash in which Autopilot was deactivated within 5 seconds before impact, and we count all crashes in which the incident alert indicated an airbag or other active restraint deployed. https://www.tesla.com/en_eu/VehicleSafetyReport

In the case the crash happened later than 5 seconds after Autopilot was disabled, or it was never used in the first place, it would be in the "Tesla vehicles not using autopilot technology" part of the data.

As for automatically detecting not-crashes, that's a bit harder to do don't ya think?

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