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“just open sourced someone else’s code ama” - a case study in fucking around and finding out (coolmathgam.es)
submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by self@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems
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from the linked github thread:

Your project is in violation of the AGPL, and you have stated this is intentional and you have no plans to open source it. This is breaking the law, and as such I've began to help you with the first steps of re-open sourcing the plugin.

the project author (who gets paid for violating the AGPL via patreon) responds like a mediocre crypto grifter and insists their violation of the law be debated on the discord they control (where their shitty community can shout down the reporter):

While keeping code private doesn't guarantee security, it does make it harder for bad actors to keep up with changes. You are welcome to debate this matter in the MakePlace discord: https://discord.com/invite/YuvcPzCuhq If you are able to convince the MakePlace community that keeping the code open-source is better, I will respect the wishes of the community.

aaaand the smackdown:

Respectfully, I won't attempt to "debate" or "convince" anyone; I'm leaving this pull request and my fork here for others to see and use. It is not a matter of "better"; you are violating a software license and the law. It does not "make it harder" for anyone; Harmony hooking exists, IL modification exists, you can modify plugins from other plugins.

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[-] binboupan@lemm.ee 36 points 9 months ago

My biggest issue with Discord is that most discussion boards moved there and it's ridiculously hard to find anything there. Plus it's a privacy nightmare..

[-] pja@awful.systems 35 points 9 months ago

Yup. Discoverability in Discord servers is dire. The privacy issues are the bonus shit topping.

“How dare you not read through six months of discussion threads in order to find the last time your question was answered” is such a great way to welcome newbies to a project.

Discord is actually pretty good at the thing it was designed for: realtime comms between friends, both text & voice. It’s terrible at everything else & I wish people would stop using it, but it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen any time soon.

[-] self@awful.systems 11 points 9 months ago

what do you mean you don’t want to beg answers out of the most hostile parts of an inevitably toxic, entrenched discord community just to know how to fire up the expensive open source hardware you’ve purchased? oh the search feature discord is actively making worse didn’t surface any answers? then suffer

[-] froztbyte@awful.systems 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

*scene*

...It's Fine, Guize. discord totally won't hold all this history and context for ransom the moment it suits their income model or it feels convenient to do so, they're not like Slack. look at all these free features! we need to learn nothing from the past!

god.... I just want to enjoy being able to post gifs during this conference? what's so hard to understand?! ....gah, stop overreacting so much...

*/scene*

(just in case it's hard to tell, I'm rather not a fan of this state of affairs)

[e: lemmy ate my scenetags [e2: wow it has really shitty filters for this]]

[-] self@awful.systems 8 points 9 months ago

but the alternatives don’t have the group voice chat and screen sharing and nazis I use for gaming. therefore I will continue to use discord for everything, especially the non-gaming stuff it sucks at

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 10 points 9 months ago

I remember sorta kinda getting back into lulnix maybe 15 years ago? something like that, and being astounded that people were expected to ask and get answers on IRC. Discord is just an extension of that .

Oh yeah and almost all those projects on IRC got hosed by the Andrew Lee takeover of Freenode.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I'm curious about this...got a link where I can read up?

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 7 points 9 months ago
[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Thanks. This is pretty crazy.

Someone “accidentally” blocks a CIDR /16 block.

Haha. This made me crack up.

[-] Soyweiser@awful.systems 3 points 9 months ago

Ah thanks I was also curious, but not curious enough to ask.

[-] self@awful.systems 2 points 9 months ago

this seems like an even earlier, worse, and faster enshittification than what happened to reddit, but nobody learned from it

[-] gerikson@awful.systems 4 points 9 months ago

It was super-niched, effectively no-one gives a shit about IRC.

[-] earthquake@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

I'm not aware of any complete histories, but these two articles have the gist of it, while unfortunately missing out on a LOT of the weird things that Andrew Lee said while doing it:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/05/freenode-irc-has-been-taken-over-by-the-crown-prince-of-korea/

https://www.theregister.com/2021/05/26/freenode_irc_takeover/

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 months ago

Ctrl + F is hard

Seriously though it is frustrating because it's not web search discoverable at all (unlike the web forums of old) and discords search function is very hit or miss in my experience.

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