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[–] parens@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (9 children)

Flakes are optional

I think the bigger point is that they are experimental. Who wants to go into production with experimental stuff? Unfortunately, if my employer were to read a suggestion of using experimental stuff in production, it would be immediately rejected.
nix itself, however, has been getting some people interested at work and if things go well, might be integrated into production solutions we sell to customers.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

They really should be moved out of that category soon. They've been so fully embraced and used by the community that they're effectively standard now.

[–] parens@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The article clearly states otherwise

Flakes also are a symptom or cause of much intra-community strife between "pro-flakes" and "anti-flakes" factions

[–] null@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Oh, that's easy -- that's utter bullshit. Article is generous, this is a blog post.

[–] parens@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

😂 why do you believe that?

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Because I'm pretty active in the Nix community and have never seen a single anti-flakes comment anywhere. Plenty of people advocating for flakes, and those who don't use or understand flakes. But never anyone who actively dislikes them.

[–] parens@programming.dev -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

OK, I see where you're coming from. You're interpreting "anti" as "dislike". Have you considered interpreting it as those who don't use and don't want to use flakes?

Just because there is disagreement, doesn't mean that it has to be tied to negative emotions like hate or dislike.

[–] null@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 years ago

Well no, because that's not what "anti" means.

And one can absolutely use NixOS without using flakes, whether they're marked experimental or not. They're simply a way to make inputs declarative, rather than the nix-channel method which is imperative.

So there's no "disagreement" here either.

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