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Experiences with different gearing on a 6-speed Brompton? in c/bicycles@lemmy.ca
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is indeed a nice tool.

The default configuration of 13/16T also provides quite even spacing though. The more significant difference is that the 12T in the back require a 44T chainring for similar development as 13T + 50T and that extends the lowest gear from 2.65 to 2.49.

This is all nice and all but my problem is that it doesn't tell me how significant that difference actually is in the real world; I don't know how the 0.25 delta would actually manifest itself in a way where you'd feel an appreciable improvement in climbing hills.

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Kagi Search Changelog March 21st, 2025 - Leveling up the Kagi Assistant experience, meet Kagi in Tokyo, and more... (kagi.com)
 

Next chapter in the Kagi Assistant experience

With this release, we're introducing a new sidebar, designed to streamline your workflow and keep everything you need within reach. This is just the beginning - the new sidebar lays the foundation for even more powerful features to come.

We're also rolling out Claude 3.7 Sonnet with extended thinking to tackle even more complex challenges.

As always, we’d love to hear your thoughts - join the conversation on Discord or share your feedback through our forum at https://kagifeedback.org/

Kagi, lost in translation, in Tokyo!

From April 21 to 25, a dedicated team from Kagi including CEO, Vlad, will travel to Tokyo 🇯🇵 to meet with companies interested in our advanced translation solutions. If you are based in Japan and your company is interested, please get in touch with Gillian.

We'd also love to meet our local user community while we're there. If you're based in Tokyo, we'd love to organise a dinner and connect in person. Looking forward to great conversations and good food with fellow Kagi fans!

Please contact Gillian at gillian@kagi.com to arrange.

Jobs, jobs, jobs

We are looking for a Head of Business Development and a Technical Architect (basically CTO equivalent in Kagi world).

Head out to Kagi hiring to apply and check out other open positions.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Based on the community's feedback, we’ve added a setting to always hide AI-generated images by default (suggested by #5998 @keyboardJones). You can enable it on Settings>Search>AI.

Kagi Assistant

Kagi Translate

  • Add token and other URL parameters to make it easier to use translate in private mode aminomancer
  • Fix translation of Catalan traditional time turly
  • IP URLs not being detected Hanbyeol
  • Inaccurate one-word translations nichu42 JW
  • Copied translation incorrectly removes line breaks LunarWatcher
  • Sync translation theme and language from Kagi Search frin
  • Add section in language picker for most commonly used languages Marcin
  • Fix some words being incorrectly identified as URLs nichu42
  • Add support for markdown goulot_situez
  • Clicking a link from a translated website doesn't redirect to translation of that page Rexios
  • Alternative translations getting cut off Peter
  • Page flashes in light mode theme for a second before turning dark nichu42
  • Source textarea steals focus while user is typing elsewhere tuesday
  • Selection of output text is unreliable on Firefox bkrein
  • Load alternative translations for user-selected text in the output box nichu42
  • Text alignment: When user hovers on input text, highlight the corrisponding part in the output RoxyRoxyRoxy

Orion browser release: smoother, smarter, and more secure

This week's Orion release brings big upgrades:

🔐 3rd party Password Managers & Adblock
We have updated support for uBlock Origin, 1Password, and Bitwarden extensions.

👓 User Interface
Several improvements concern vertical tabs, the sidebar, and favicons.

📺 Youtube and PiP
Several improvements enhance the use of Youtube and the Picture-in-Picture feature.

🪲 Crash fixes & Stability
Bye bye crashes on launch, instability if the browser stays open for a long time, and freezes.

For all the details, please refer to Orion's changelog.

Kagi on Socials

This week's featured social media post:

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

  • This TechCrunch article mentions Kagi as an option for users who prioritize not just a better search experience but also a more privacy-focused search.
  • OMG! Ubuntu covered Orion's expansion to Linux.
  • t3n, a German tech magazine, also featured Kagi, highlighting it as a privacy-friendly and ad-free alternative. Read with Kagi Translate here.

Kagi Community Reviews

We are deeply grateful to everyone who takes the time to share their experiences, tips, and feedback about Kagi, helping to spread the word and inspire others to discover its value. Here are some recent reviews to highlight:

Have a Kagi review you'd like to feature? Please share it and ping us on any of our various socials when you do!

The Kagi Way

We partnered with artist Chaz Hutton on a graphic that illustrates how Kagi empowers you to search without the noise, trackers and distractions. Help us share it widely!

Is it possibly to permanently blacklist websites on DuckDuckGo? in c/degoogle@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

And it's also client-side. Kagi filters them server-side AFAICT, so from your POV it's instant and without client-side filtering jank.

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Kagi Search Changelog Orion's Next Chapter: Linux Development Officially Launched (kagi.com)
 

We're thrilled to announce that development of Orion Browser for Linux has officially started! Our team is working hard to bring the same speed, privacy, and innovation that Mac users love to the Linux platform.

This is an ambitious project that we expect will take approximately one year to complete. Our target is to achieve feature parity with the current macOS version by March 2026.

Want to stay updated on Orion for Linux?
Register here to receive news and early access opportunities throughout the development year.

Kagi Search Changelog Feb 27, 2025 - Sonnet 3.7 hits Assistant, early access to Ki, TikTok search and major Translate improvements in c/kagi@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

I don't care for the LLMs or Tiktok but Translate is becoming more and more useful with alternative translations and such.

Deepl was sort of the gold standard for translation for a good while and Kagi Translate can do everything it can for my purposes. And I just get it on top of the search engine I actually paid for without paying any extra. Quite amazing.

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Kagi Search Changelog Feb 27, 2025 - Sonnet 3.7 hits Assistant, early access to Ki, TikTok search and major Translate improvements (kagi.com)
 

Kagi Assistant adds Sonnet 3.7 and the preview of multi-step reasoning assistant called Ki

We're happy to unveil the latest updates to our assistant experience. This release brings a smoother, smarter, and more intuitive interface designed to make your interactions simpler. Try it out and feel the difference!

We also added Claude 3.7 Sonnet to our model lineup! It's now powering our !code assistant and plays a key role in our advanced multi-step reasoning model, Kii. Currently in early testing, Ki is available exclusively to our Discord community members - join now to get early access (Ultimate account users only)!

And today OpenAI released GPT4.5 - we have already benchmarked it. Check Kagi LLM benchmark.

TikTok video search

Video search just got even sharper—you can now filter specifically for Tiktok videos. Find exactly what you're looking for, faster.

We are hiring a Flutter developer!

We just opened a position for a skilled Flutter Developer. Apply now or send someone our way.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Assistant

Translate

Try Kagi Translate at https://translate.kagi.com/

  • If on 'manual' translate mode, do a translate when the user changes target language #6037 @Thibaultmol
  • Improve Korean Localization #5305_334, #5305_329 @Hanbyeol
  • Don't show alternative translations in JP, if the only thing that's changed from original is the pronunciation being added. #5305_328 @frin
  • JP romanization is sometimes incorrect/overly formal #5305_328 #5305_323 @frin
  • German (Switzerland) translations using the wrong "ss" #5305_314 @psy-q
  • Translated text sometimes put into quotation marks #5305_306 @nichu42
  • Disable/export/delete translation history #5305_308 @ajimix
  • CTRL+A should only select the translated text, not whole page #5305_316 @RoxyRoxyRoxy
  • Add Hawaiian to list of supported languages #5305_320 @Bradh
  • Change URL params when translation is completed #5305_323 @frin
  • While proofreading hindi, strike/correct whole diacritic / ligature. @aldehyde.8578
  • Document translation: translate your .doc(x), .txt and .csv documents
  • Alternative translations: along the main translation, show multiple translation options
  • Word insights: fine-tune individual words or phrases
  • https://translate.kagi.com/iso_code now redirects to the main page, with the to language being set to [iso_code].
  • Make tooltips appear immediately, adjust style
  • Dynamic text size depending on length in input/output box
  • Increase max size of request header to allow longer romanization requests
  • [Forgot to credit last time] Add translation context field #5305_253 @Kate-Karui

Kagi on Socials

This week's featured social media post:

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

Interested in covering Kagi on your outlet, newsletter or podcast? Hit us up! Our team is very approachable and we welcome any opportunity to engage with various communities about our latest features.

Backups: Am I doing this right? in c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

There's also the option of just leaving an offline disk at someone's and visiting them regularly to update the backup.

Having an entirely offline copy also protects you/mitigates against a few additional hazards.

Immich: opinion revised in c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago

If you don't process any user data beyond what is technologically required to make the website work, you don't need to inform the user about it.

Fedora OBS Drama Resolved in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

None of this puts the user out of control; they're free to add the Flathub repository should they wish to do so.

A distro/set-up for containerization similar to android? in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

He

I hate to be that guy but OP gave no indication of their gender. English has the luxury of having a "natural" neutral pronoun; please just use that.

which these suggested Fedora Spins are designed to integrate with as tightly as possible

Could you explain what exactly this "tight integration" pertains? AFAIK these are just regular old global-state distros but with read-only snapshotting for said global state (RPM-ostree, "immutable").
Read-only global system configuration state in pretty much requires usage of Flatpak and the like for user-level package application management because you aren't supposed to modify the global system state to do so but that's about the extent that I know such distros interact with Flatpak etc.

Bazzite is completely the opposite of an OS designed to run one app at once, which means you haven’t tried it before rubbishing it as a suggestion.

That is their one and only stated goal: Run games.

I don't know about you but I typically only run one game at a time and have a hard time imagining how any gaming-focused distro would do it any other way besides running basic utilities in the background (i.e. comms software.).

Obviously you can use it to do non-gaming stuff too but at that point it's just a regular old distro with read-only system state. You can install Flatpak, distrobox etc. on distros that have mutable system state too for that matter.

Could you point out the specific concrete things Bazzite does to improve separation between applications beyond the sandboxing tools that are available to any distribution?

It's true that I haven't used Bazzite; I have no use for imperative global state distributions and am capable of applying modifications useful for gaming on my own. It's not like I haven't done my research though.

Fedora OBS Drama Resolved in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

"No your honour, we do not offer users any patented software, we merely ship a system which directs users to this other totally unrelated entity that we are fully aware ships patented software." will not hold up in court.

I also imagine RH would simply like control over the repository content they offer to users by default. Flathub acts more like a 3rd party user repository than a "proper" distro.

Fedora OBS Drama Resolved in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't assume you to be stupid, so lack of information is the most likely explanation for not knowing what "it" refers to here.

Fedora OBS Drama Resolved in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Read the linked issue first perhaps.

Fedora OBS Drama Resolved in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Offering patented software would open Fedora (a RedHat product mind you) up to legal issues in places that know software patents (primarily the U.S.).

A distro/set-up for containerization similar to android? in c/linux@lemmy.ml
[–] Atemu@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

There is no distribution that does what you're looking for. All the ones recommended by others in this thread are just generic distributions that do nothing special to separate user applications and I have no idea why they saw fit to mention them at all.

The best recommendation here is Qubes but that's arguably not a distro but rather its own operating system that can then run some instances of distros inside of it with strong separation between those units.

The only thing that somewhat goes the direction you want is Flatpak but it's not anywhere close to Androids really quite solid app separation scheme.

The reality of it is that most Linux desktop apps are made with the assumption that they are permitted to access every resource the user has access to with no differentiation; your SSH or GPG private keys are in the same category as the app's config file.

Standard APIs to manage permissions in a more fine-grained manner are slowly being worked on (primarily by the flatpak community IME) but it's slow and mostly focused on container stuff which I'm not convinced is the way forward. There does not appear to be any strong effort towards creating a resource access control design that's anywhere near as good as Android's in any case though.

The closest thing we have is systemd hardening for system components but that's obviously not relevant for desktop apps. It's also (IMHO) inherently flawed due to using a blocklist approach rather than an allow-list one. It's also quite rigid in what resources it controls.

I'm not convinced any of the existing technologies we have right now is fit for a modern user-facing system.

Here's what I think we ought to have:

  • A method to identify applications at runtime (e.g. to tell apart your browser from your terminal and your editor at runtime)
  • A generic extensible way to declare resources to which access should be controlled within a single user context (i.e. some partition of your home filesystem or some device that your user generally has access to such as your camera)
  • A user-configurable mapping between resources and applications; enforced by kernel-level generic mechanisms

No need for any containers here for any of this; they're a crutch for poor legacy distro design that relies on global state. I don't see a need for breaking the entire UNIX process model by unsharing all resources and then passing in some of them through by overly complex methods either.

Eventhough they're quite simple and effective, I'm not convinced UNIX users are a good primitive to use for application identification like Android does it because that implies user data file ownership needs to be managed by some separate component rather than the standard IO operations that any Linux apps ever uses for everything.
I think this should instead be achieved using cgroups instead which are the single most important invention in operating systems that you can actually use today since UNIX IMHO.

The missing parts are therefore a standard for resource declaration and a standard and mechanism to assign them to applications (identified via cgroup).
I haven't done much research into whether these exist or how they could me made to exist.

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An Orion browser port to Linux is being worked on (news.ycombinator.com)
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Introducing Privacy Pass authentication for Kagi Search | Kagi Blog (blog.kagi.com)
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Kagi Search Changelog 13th Feb, 2025 - Redefining Privacy in Search (kagi.com)
 

Announcing Kagi Privacy Pass

Kagi now supports Privacy Pass, an IETF-standardized protocol ensuring your searches are technically unlinkable to your account.

Read all about why this matters and the details of implementation in our announcement blog post!

Privacy Pass support is provided:

  • Natively for Orion browser users (macOS/iOS/iPadOS). On iOS, make sure to have version 1.3.17 and above (expected to roll out globally today) and update your macOS Orion to version 0.99.131.
  • Natively through Kagi App for Android (make sure to have version 0.29, expected to roll out globally today)
  • Browser extension for Firefox or Chrome

A few important details:

  • Privacy Pass implementation is fully open-sourced for transparency and community collaboration
  • Kagi Privacy Pass is available for the Professional, Ultimate, Family, and Team plans.
  • Limitations:
    • It's not available for Trial/Starter plans
    • Privacy Pass mode disables account-specific features, like domain personalisaton (as we do not know which user is searching)
    • Privacy Pass mode is supported for Kagi Search in this initial phase, we will add support other services in the coming weeks. Check the blog post FAQ section for more details!

Kagi is redefining privacy in search. Try it now!

Kagi Tor Onion service

Access Kagi securely and anonymously via our new Tor Onion Service.

You can now access Kagi directly through the Tor network using our dedicated onion address:

kagi2pv5bdcxxqla5itjzje2cgdccuwept5ub6patvmvn3qgmgjd6vid.onion

See more information about Kagi Tor service in our documentation.

An updated comprehensive privacy policy

We're also excited to share our updated privacy policy, with simplified language and designed to clearly reflect our strong commitment to protecting your privacy.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Kagi Assistant

  • Kagi Assistant now supports O3 Mini, Gemini 2.0 Flash, and R1 Distill Llama 70B!
  • Announce new results from assistant using ARIA Live #5996 @fastfinge
  • Allow to hide thought process for reasoning LLMs #6025 @KamilKurde
  • Add o3-mini model to Kagi Assistant #6135 @RegChien
  • Formatting issues in Reasoning for R1 in Assistant #6148 @hansihe
  • Assistant should wait with naming a thread until it's finished if not enough info #5828 @Thibaultmol
  • Space missing below reference list in Assistant downloaded transcript #5833 @thomasjsn
  • Allow for disabling the CTRL + SHIFT + Backspace shortcut #5550 @4P5mc
  • Images cannot be pasted into the Assistant on WebKit browsers #6193 @laiz
  • Info panel not visible for new Assistant UI #6143 @azdanov
  • The assistant prompt "think about </think> tag" breaks auto-hiding of reasoning text #6181 @ssg

Kagi Android App

Privacy Pass support! You can add the Privacy Pass shortcut by holding the Kagi Android icon.

  • The app returns to the main screen every time it re-renders (e.g., entering/leaving split screen) #5875 @Philippe_Choquette
  • Assistant via Android app doesn't work with multi file uploads #5959 @Thibaultmol

Kagi on Socials

Here is this week's featured social media post:

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

Orion tops Apple's App Store's list of superpowered internet browsers "to seriously level up your web browsing"!

And Android Police published an article about Kagi's new fair pricing model: "This ethical search engine will return your subscription money if you don't use it." The Verge also covered the news.

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This scrappy search upstart is getting thousands of people to give up Google (www.fastcompany.com)
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Kagi Search Changelog Feb 4th, 2025 - Introducing Fair Pricing (kagi.com)
 

Use it or keep it

In months where you don't utilize any searches on your plan, we will automatically apply a full credit to your account for that month. This credit will be applied to your next billing cycle, effectively covering your subsequent month's subscription at no additional cost.

We have implemented this for the simple reason of being kind to our users. We understand some months you may forget to use Kagi or do not need it, so when you do, you can rest assured that we haven’t charged you for that.

This change is effective immediately, no forms to fill, no requests to make.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Assistant

Kagi on Socials

Here is this week's featured social media post.

Tag our accounts or use #Kagi when mentioning us in your posts!

Kagi in the News

Fast Company just published an article highlighting how Kagi is redefining search by prioritising users over ads and clutter. It's a good in-depth read, perfect for sharing with anyone curious about a better way to search!

(define) scrappy: Having an aggressive spirit; inclined to fight or strive. (informal)

Yep, sounds about right!

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Kagi Search Changelog Jan 31, 2025 - Translate and Assistant updates, SVG search and more (kagi.com)
submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Atemu@lemmy.ml to c/kagi@lemmy.ml
0 comments fedilink
 

Spreading the Kagi idea

We partnered with illustrator Chaz Hutton to capture what makes Kagi different. Share and engage with the artwork on your favorite social platform - Mastodon, Bluesky, Pixelfed, Instagram, X, Nostr, LinkedIn, and Threads. Expect more to come!

A fresh Assistant experience

We've launched a major redesign of the Assistant interface, featuring:

  • A cleaner, text-editor style layout
  • Improved message flow and readability
  • Streamlined controls and interactions

This update is part of our vision to create a distinctive LLM interface. Stay tuned for more improvements, including sidebar integration and new thread management features.

In the meantime, please let us know what you think!

Kagi Translate evolves

It's now localized itself into 20 new languages, so it truly speaks your language.

The settings panel lets you customize translations and add context effortlessly.

And the history panel keeps track of everything you've translated. buttons are now grouped for easier navigation.

Plus, long translations are up to 3x faster, and we've relaxed content filters for more flexibility.
It's faster, smarter, and more intuitive.

Don't take our word for it - try Kagi Translate and see for yourself!

SVG Search

Finding vector graphics is now easier with our dedicated SVG filter - perfect for discovering icons, logos, and illustrations.

Safari native integration

Unfortunately we can't do this without your help. Share your feedback directly with Apple to help make it happen.

Improvements and bug fixes

Search

Assistant

  • Kagi Assistant "sees" earlier reply after you edit your message. #4699 @Value7609
  • Share assistant threads without requiring account #5256 @snowytrees
  • Recent (seemingly) versions of Claude are getting stuck with their own XML data attributing it to the user #5960 @WhatMatters
  • Universal Summarizer: Consistently never completes (via web or API) for a specific video #6111 @utf9k
  • AI Assistant "Stop" button doesn't provide feedback #6022 @tboby
  • Make the entire assistant window "hot" for drag and dropping files #6023 @RoxyRoxyRoxy
  • Real-time render of Latex block #5579 @oxlvlnle

Kagi Translate

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Kagi Search Changelog Jan 21st, 2025 - Share Kagi and explore the best video search results (kagi.com)
 

Share Kagi with the World 🌍

With this release, we're excited to introduce changes that allows you to share all your searches and Assistant threads with everyone.

You can now easily share image, video, news, and podcast searches by clicking the share icon.

Additionally, any Assistant threads you share will be publicly accessible to others!

Video search, leveled up

We’ve refined our ranking system to bring you sharper, more relevant results. We think this sets a new standard — try it and let us know what you think.

Plus, you can now see detailed channel statistics such as subscriber count, creation date, and total videos, right in your search results.

Pro tip: to avoid clickbait, you can customise your experience by selecting a random screenshot as the thumbnail or modifying video titles in your search settings.

Assistant

We're working on exciting updates to the Assistant experience! The model picker is now located in the top menu bar, making it easier to select a model for your next action. Plus, we've added two new models for you to explore: Deepseek R1 and Deepseek v3, both using a privacy respecting provider (see our LLM privacy guide).

  • Upgrading claude haiku 3 to haiku 3.5 in assisant. #5374 @JJ
  • Consider adding Deepseek v3 for Assistant #5798 @Nashwan
  • When using Assistant to generate code, it is outputting encoded entities #5169 @beetstabasco
  • Assistant fails to generate a relevant title with longer inputs #5880 @coreyward
  • Make the 'internet' option in the url for Assistant accept both true/false and on/off #5885 @CrunchyFritos
  • Desktop Kagi Assistant PWA: Opens External Links in the PWA Instead of the Default Browser #5749 @mackid1993

Improvements and bug fixes

Kagi Translate

  • Translations now sync scrolling between original and translated pages for smoother navigation
  • We've implemented several changes to enhance translation speed, accuracy, and quality while reducing latency
  • Unable to scroll when showing original translation #5964 @Temanor
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Experiences with different gearing on a 6-speed Brompton? (lemmy.ml)
 

So I let the chain wear down too much in the past two years and the rear sprockets appear to be worn out and will need to be replaced. The stock 50T chain ring is also showing signs of wear but appears to still be good for a few years.

I wanted to use this opportunity to see whether I could switch the gearing up a little.

The 13-16 gearing has been surprisingly capable but I need just a little more hill climbing ability; the lowest gear (2.64m) is just barely enough sometimes. I'd like it a tad lower I think.

On the high end, I usually ride in the upper two gears on flat ground. The highest gear (7.98m) feels just a tad too much sometimes though and I then fall back to one lower (6.49m) but that feels a good bit too low. That doesn't bother me a lot but it'd still be nicer to have a gear that's just right.

On a downhill, the highest gear is always sufficient for me; feels pretty much exactly right. I wouldn't mind slightly more metres of development but, honestly, I don't care very much when I'm already going way past 30km/h and I don't ride downhill for very long usually. I'm unsure whether reducing the highest gear slightly would make me pedal uncomfortably quickly down hill though.

Stock and current config:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.64 4.14 6.49
High sprocket 3.25 5.10 7.98

I'm currently thinking about a 44T chain ring with 12-17:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.19 3.43 5.37
High sprocket 3.10 4.86 7.61

or 12-16:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.33 3.64 5.71
High sprocket 3.10 4.86 7.61

The lower gears being lower and closer together sounds very nice.

In the higher gears, my hope is that the slightly lower highest gear would allow me to use it the majority of the time on flat ground because I suspect the second highest gear would feel quite a bit too low as a fall-back.

I could see 12-15 being an option perhaps but that also gets the lowest gear much closer to 13-16 again:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.48 3.89 6.09
High sprocket 3.10 4.86 7.61

But obviously the lowest gear gets very close to the previous config again.

Where I have a hard time is imagining how significant the difference between 2.64m, 2.19m, 2.33m and 2.48m are in an uphill scenario. The jump between the lower gears in 13-16 (3.25m to 2.64m) in practice feels significant but not that large either and we're talking about a much lower absolute drop being gained in the low end by switching gearing. I don't know whether the practical effect of this is linear though and I suspect it might not be.

I'd really appreciate practical experience here. Have you changed gearing on your Brompton? From what to what and how significant were the differences?

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Experiences with different gearing for 6-speed? (lemmy.ml)
submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Atemu@lemmy.ml to c/brompton@discuss.tchncs.de
0 comments fedilink
 

So I let the chain wear down too much in the past two years and the rear sprockets appear to be worn out and will need to be replaced. The stock 50T chain ring is also showing signs of wear but appears to still be good for a few years.

I wanted to use this opportunity to see whether I could switch the gearing up a little.

The 13-16 gearing has been surprisingly capable but I need just a little more hill climbing ability; the lowest gear (2.64m) is just barely enough sometimes. I'd like it a tad lower I think.

On the high end, I usually ride in the upper two gears on flat ground. The highest gear (7.98m) feels just a tad too much sometimes though and I then fall back to one lower (6.49m) but that feels a good bit too low. That doesn't bother me a lot but it'd still be nicer to have a gear that's just right.

On a downhill, the highest gear is always sufficient for me; feels pretty much exactly right. I wouldn't mind slightly more metres of development but, honestly, I don't care very much when I'm already going way past 30km/h and I don't ride downhill for very long usually. I'm unsure whether reducing the highest gear slightly would make me pedal uncomfortably quickly down hill though.

Stock and current config:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.64 4.14 6.49
High sprocket 3.25 5.10 7.98

I'm currently thinking about a 44T chain ring with 12-17:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.19 3.43 5.37
High sprocket 3.10 4.86 7.61

or 12-16:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.33 3.64 5.71
High sprocket 3.10 4.86 7.61

The lower gears being lower and closer together sounds very nice.

In the higher gears, my hope is that the slightly lower highest gear would allow me to use it the majority of the time on flat ground because I suspect the second highest gear would feel quite a bit too low as a fall-back.

I could see 12-15 being an option perhaps but that also gets the lowest gear much closer to 13-16 again:

Hub 64% 100% 157%
Low sprocket 2.48 3.89 6.09
High sprocket 3.10 4.86 7.61

But obviously the lowest gear gets very close to the previous config again.

Where I have a hard time is imagining how significant the difference between 2.64m, 2.19m, 2.33m and 2.48m are in an uphill scenario. The jump between the lower gears in 13-16 (3.25m to 2.64m) in practice feels significant but not that large either and we're talking about a much lower absolute drop being gained in the low end by switching gearing. I don't know whether the practical effect of this is linear though and I suspect it might not be.

I'd really appreciate practical experience here. Have you changed gearing on your Brompton? From what to what and how significant were the differences?

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