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[-] CultHero@lemmy.world 87 points 10 months ago

The Republicans have been playing by the nazi playbook for a long time now.

Nazis didn't start with the Jews. They knew they couldn't get away with rounding up an entire ethnic group. They started with the LGBTQ community. They dehumanized lgbtq people in the eyes of the public and made it seem like they were doing it for the good of a pure and powerful Germany. When that worked they realized how easy it was to dehumanize an entire population in the eyes of the public and used the same tactics against Jews, Roma etc.

When you think about it the lgbtq community is the first line of defence protecting democracy because they are the most vulnerable and easiest to demonize. Once it's ok to eradicate one group of people it becomes so much easier to do the same to larger groups.

It won't stop at lgbtq people, they will keep eradicating every minority until they're actually stopped by force. So far they've gone after trans people, gay marriage, women's reproductive rights and have even talked about overturning Loving vs Virginia. Their goal is a straight, white, "Christian" male utopia.

[-] maypull@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago

the poem starts "first they came for the communists"

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

LGBT and communists were attacked at around the same time based on my knowledge of events, but is it really a surprise that the LGBT would be excluded from recognition based on the dominate cultures of the time?

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It depends on how you count.

Germany went through a Communist revolution immediately after (and a little bit during) WW1. The Communists won and took over Germany, getting rid of the monarchy. The far right in Germany went fucking wild with rage, a level of anger that really has no parallel in the modern US, and "cleansed" Germany. The Weimar Republic was formed roughly in the wake of that.

But that wasn't the Nazis, though many of the people involved in that did go on to become Nazis.

The Nazis did sorta go after queer, and specifically transgender, people first. (And "degenerate art"!)

The Weimar Republic, for its many, many, many faults (seriously here it's hard to overstate) did grow out of a Communist revolution even if it betrayed that revolution. They were actually issuing permits for people to live their lives as a different gender, similar to our modern conception of getting your paperwork changed in the US. One of the first things the Nazis did when they took over was to strike those permits down. (Or simply prosecute the people who held them. Or simply straight up murder them.)

[-] maypull@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

is it really a surprise that the LGBT would be excluded from recognition based on the dominate cultures of the time?

I don't know what this is supposed to mean

[-] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 10 months ago

The poem in question was by Martin Niemöller, who was a Lutheran pastor. It's not surprising that he'd write LGBTQ+ people out.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Do you think Pastor Neimoller would have a problem with them coming for the trans people?

[-] maypull@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

he didn't have a problem with any of it.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I mean when he wrote the poem.

[-] maypull@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago

say what you want. your guessing game is boring.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago
[-] maypull@lemmy.ca -1 points 10 months ago

if you have something to say, say it. I don't care for your interrogative style.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

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