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submitted 8 months ago by renzev@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.world

Many "alternative" search engines are better for privacy, but they are still vulnerable to censorship, because they rely on g**gle and m*crosoft's indices for their search results. This isn't a deep-hidden secret either, many of them disclose what search index they use on the "about" page, for example:

There are still search engines that (claim to) maintain their own index. Most surprisingly, br*ve:

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[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 55 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I use Kagi, and while it does use google index, it also uses many other indexes and its own index. I wonder how this impacts censorship.

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-sources.html

Edit : Not much detail here but they do comment on it here :

https://help.kagi.com/kagi/search-details/search-quality.html

Avoiding Censorship and Bias

We do our best to avoid censorship and bias. Some results from traditional sources will reflect biases, but they’ll be balanced by results from other sources. Also, we have built product features to help with bias reduction. For example, our "World News" Lens includes articles from respectable media outlets across the globe.

One of the signals that does influence our ranking is the presence of ads or trackers. We penalize bloated sites regardless of their agendas.

[-] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

I swear to God you people must work for Kagi.

[-] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 22 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Lol, I know how you feel. Not long ago there was suddenly a bunch of chatter about it on Lemmy and I was thinking the same thing, that it had to be marketing. But I'm a curious sort and I was so sick of bad google results so I tried it.

Now that I have used Kagi I'm convinced it was organic chatter. I really do like it, I think it's better, and if they offered money for posts I'd take that money because I'm paying $10 a month for a search engine, lol.

[-] mac@infosec.pub 7 points 8 months ago

I thought this was a possibility at first, then I used it. The lad time is basically instant, the results are always good and it has a bunch of features with AI etc.

[-] M137@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

Or people just like it? This isn't hard to understand and has always been a thing. When people find something they really like they will tell other people about it.

[-] hardaysknight@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

That’s possible, but when every comment mentioning it has a 1000 word count, it screams advertisement to me.

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